Turns out all you need is a Supreme Court majority on your side and you can wipe your ass with the Constitution.
What exactly is the point of a judicial warrant if the executive branch can determine when they’re unnecessary?
Time for y’all to get guns then
They are drooling at the opportunity to make their own version of Horst Wessel out of an ICE officer.
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The American delusion ™
The time for that was Jan 7, 2020.
If someone is buying a gun today and they haven’t fired one yet, they’re kinda just a loot crate.
Funny, I also said things that were untrue but convenient to me. I was 6 at the time, but still
Cool. Guess what the 2nd Amendment says?
Find some friends and don’t go it alone in Minecraft!
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The Nazis ruled Germany for 12 years. The Gestapo believed that they were untouchable. In the end, the leader was dead by suicide, the senior officers tried and executed, the junior officers hunted, tried, convicted, and executed, imprisoned or murdered, and those who weren’t caught were hunted and on the run for the rest of their lives until they were dead.
I’m just saying.
and those who weren’t caught were hunted and on the run for the rest of their lives until they were dead.
this is actually untrue in some cases. Some really made the getaway to Latin America and literally got away with it.
Josef Mengele is the worst for multiple reasons. He got married under his own name, WENT BACK TO GERMANY UNDER HIS REAL PASSPORT IN HIS REAL NAME ON HOLIDAY AND RETURNED, and died in a swimming accident after a normal lifespan.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josef_Mengele#In_South_America
Mengele worked as a carpenter in Buenos Aires while lodging in a boarding house in the suburb of Vicente López.[95] After a few weeks, he moved to the house of a Nazi sympathizer in the neighborhood of Florida Este. He next worked as a salesman for his family’s farm equipment company, Karl Mengele & Sons, and in 1951, he began making frequent trips to Paraguay as a regional sales representative for the firm.[96] He moved into an apartment in central Buenos Aires in 1953, used family funds to buy a part interest in a carpentry concern, and then rented a house in the suburb of Olivos in 1954
After obtaining a copy of his birth certificate through the West German embassy in 1956, Mengele was issued an Argentine foreign residence permit under his real name. He used this document to obtain a West German passport using his real name and embarked on a trip to Europe.[99][100] He met with his son Rolf (who was told Mengele was his “Uncle Fritz”)[101] and his widowed sister-in-law Martha for a ski holiday in Switzerland. He also spent a week in his home town of Günzburg.[102][103] When he returned to Argentina in September 1956, Mengele applied for and received an Argentinian identity card under the name José Mengele, a variation of his real name
Martha and her son Karl Heinz followed about a month later, and the three began living together. Josef and Martha were married in 1958 while on holiday in Uruguay, and they bought a house in Buenos Aires
Rolf, who had not seen his father since the ski holiday in 1956, visited him at the bungalow in 1977; he found an “unrepentant Nazi” who claimed he had never personally harmed anyone and only carried out his duties as an officer.[138]
On 7 February 1979, while visiting his friends Wolfram and Liselotte Bossert in the coastal resort of Bertioga,[140] Mengele had a second stroke while swimming and drowned.
Just to remind you, this is Josef “The angel of death” Mengele, who experimented on human beings for funsies and just to see what would happen. The guy that Slayer wrote their biggest hit around. This prick got away with it all, learnt nothing, had no shame AND WENT BACK TO GERMANY ON HOLIDAY.
Is RFK Mengele in this scenario? Do you think there are many rocket scientists working for ICE? Are Trump’s cabinet members political elites?
The Trump regime is a pedofascist kleptocratic idiocracy. ICE are the prison camp guards who were hunted relentlessly until they were caught or dead.
And most administrative people on the political side just continued to rule. There are plenty of German politicians today those parents or mentors were prominent collaborators.
If this goes historically barely anyone in power will be held responsible.
feel like the US had an amendment for this
As a European I am baffled the civil war has not even started yet.
It’s crazy right? Especially since americans were so vocal about all of the amendments and chekcs and balances for decades which turned out to mean absolutely nothing.
Nobody wants to start it because the consequences would be huge and right now sitting around doing nothing is still possible.
If they decide to follow this memo and actual law enforcement do not care, sitting around doing nothing will not remain an option.
It just need someone snapping and starts shooting ICE. Then all hell will break loose. IIRC there’s some political scientists doing a simulation on how a civil war might start in modern America and it’s eerily similar to what’s been going on right now. There’s only two steps left, someone shooting ICE and then the federal government starts sending troops to take over State and clashing between federal military and the national guard.
How would you even simulate something that relies almost entirely on non-deterministic human behaviours?
They played some kind of RPG.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2026/jan/21/ice-minnesota-trump
Indeed!
But doing nothing did and does validate what he is doing.
Civil war = no midterm elections = Trump win.
I know, he’s also hoping for it. There is no good solution. He will just go on.
What about this memo that says they can’t? It also states we can bear arms to protect ourselves from tyranny so… check mate Nazis
They clearly abandoned their oaths at all levels, so that document doesn’t mean anything anymore if everybody willfully ignores it daily. At that point, it’s just ink on a paper that is just barley better than a spill.
And that means we are well within our legal rights to fight back
Does that include car bombs?
I heard people speculate that this time in America will be a lot like the “troubles” in Ireland
The mask of rule of law slips to reveal the reality of might makes right. You better outnumber and outgun them, to enforce these rights.
A memo???
Ha!
A lot of these guys are going to be killed.
Oh no. Anyway…
Nothing of value will be lost.
-Both sides, but for different reasons.
Those bullets could have been used for fun evenings in the gun range, so there was some lost value
I’m sorry, they’ll have to speak with our attorneys at Heckler & Koch
I think that’s part of the plan. Have an Icehole get shot in the face so they can ratchet up the violence.
In a country where you can be shot for ringing the wrong doorbell or turning around in the wrong driveway it’s only a matter of time before these idiots get the wrong house.
People get shot at the drive thru because Burger King ran out of ketchup packets.
It’s only a matter of time until one of these squads of door-kicking ICE goons gets perforated on a suburban front lawn.
it’s only a matter of time, you guys kill cable guys and postmen, imagine when randos get their doors kicked in by ICE.
And then they burn your house down with you in it. Is that part of your plan, because it’s their plan.
Turns out all you need is a Supreme Court majority on your side and you can wipe your ass with the Constitution.
Same as it’s always been, they’re just being more brazen about it
You don’t even need the courts of your side. The Regime has directly defied court orders time and time again.
What you really need is a citizenry that’s too afraid or complicit to defend themselves.
Too true, but I’m pretty sure courts haven’t ruled on this yet and plenty of courts have ruled for the law and constitution.
There’s a reason the memo was secret. They absolutely know how wrong it is and are not confident their rubber stamp Supreme Court will let it slide
That’s funny, because I say I can shoot someone for an armed unlawful entry. So either the law is on my side, or the laws are illegitimate and are irrelevant anyway. I guess we’ll just have to disagree.
They won’t like that with a Constitutionalist.
They will absolutely come for the guns next. Once the population is disarmed the civil war will begin. Martial law. Police state. No privacy protections. All amendments abolished. Civil rights act abolished. Military checkpoints at all state borders. Reinstated draft. 10% inflation. 20% unemployment. Reeducation centers. Prison work camps. State takeover of media. Iron curtain. Restricted Internet.
This year. Get out while the borders are open.
Other than the black Panthers ain’t nobody already with guns doing anything right now.
This year. Get out while the borders are open.
Some people have to stay behind to sabotage the Regime.
Let’s just hope they spare your family.
You mean the ones that have been voting for this stuff since the 80s? I hope they get what they deserve
Oh my fucking god… Every comment in this stupid thread is saying the same stupid thing. “Time to get your guns…”, "Exercise your 2nd amendment… " Yeah, that’s hilarious tough guy. Do you have a gun? No? well do you have a gun license? No? Well do you know the first thing about firearms? You do! Oh you’ve played several call of duty games… Awesome. Do you know that you’re statistically more likely to shoot a family member than a home intruder? Well I hope you don’t like them much.
Ok, moving past the idiotic bravado… It sounds like you have no solution for people who aren’t just itching to murder other people. Say for instance, that I have no interest in shooting someone, and in fact feel that a civil society should not involve shooting anyone, especially fellow countrymen. With that in mind, for the sane perhaps 70% of Americans, do you have any useful advice besides “get a gun”?
Finally, if your plan does work and every American arms themselves, then congratulations, we’ve fallen into civil war 2. Now what? Even if you do have guns, the government has bigger ones and they have munitions you don’t. You will always, always be outgunned by the military. Now being armed makes you a hostile combatant/terrorist agent in the eyes of the law, anything you do with it will be deemed illegal. Some good that 2nd amendment is doing you. What’s your plan now?
well do you have a gun license?
Tell me you’re describing your own lack of experience with firearms without telling me you’re describing your own lack of experience with firearms.
So you plan to just take the abuse and the loss of your liberties and freedoms?
I’ll stick to my guns.
You are already defeated I see.
Back to the keyboard they go.
You are already brainwashed I see.
Do you understand what irony is?
People break into my house I’m with intent to harm me andy family
This guy: welp. Guess I’ll die.
He didn’t ever get his gun license.
Guess I’ll defend myself, but not with a gun.
Says 80% of the global population…
Yeah, that’s such a weird stance. It’s just what the vast majority of people do.
You’re welcome to not have guns. No one is forcing you to defend yourself. You can fight ICE with your bare hands if you want.
But maybe don’t shit on others for wanting to be pragmatic.
So do you put like ketchup or ranch on the boot first, or…?
Legit question, are you brain damaged?
We will will revolt so you can stay cozy, lil buddy. Already fought a war over bullshit that didn’t help Americans or our security…it will be nice actually be fighting for a cause this time.
When you feel powerless and don’t know how to fix a situation it’s only natural to want to do something, that makes perfect sense. But it’s worth remembering, that there is no situation so bad that you can’t still make it worse. Sometimes when all your options are bad, waiting to act is in fact the correct course of action.
More Americans died in the civil war than in any other American conflict. This is despite the increasing lethality of weaponry over the years, despite the scope and length of wars like WW2. Following the war much of the country was left in ruin, the economic cost was staggering, it took decades to recover.
My point is, starting a war is a bad idea. Sure, at least it’s doing something, but it’s doing the wrong thing, it’s the opposite of helping.
