• muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works
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    There is no incentive to comply. They want violence. Give them violence. They are going to kill you either way.

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      And I’m sure we’ll be seeing you on the front lines actively fighting against ICE…

      Unless you’re part of the Black Panthers, I find these Internet tough guy comments laughable and even I who have went to the No Kings protests carrying, I’m not going to be fighting multiple ICE agents if they ask for papers please on my minority ass.

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        I’m not really sure what this comment was trying to do. I’m scared like anyone else. My fight or flight response is geared heavily toward stand-still-and-hope-their-vision-is-based-on-movement, so unless I’m fighting a t-rex I’m hosed.

        I’m not pretending I’m all powerful. I’m stating compliance is nonsensical.

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          My fight or flight response is geared heavily toward stand-still-and-hope-their-vision-is-based-on-movement, so unless I’m fighting a t-rex I’m hosed.

          I’m not pretending I’m all powerful. I’m stating compliance is nonsensical.

          Oh for fucks sake there Internet Bravado, you might not have understood what my point was damn you sure as hell proved it.

          Don’t go around telling others to fight and die when you aren’t willing to do so yourself.

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            I’m not Jason Bourne. I’m some dude on the internet. And you don’t fight hoping solely for your benefit. You fight so those who follow have better odds.

            If it makes you feel any better, I already know what’s coming for me here. I’m part of a population that will absolutely end up in a mass grave before this ends.

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    Lol nevermind, we have a whole rl documentation with Germany on what leads to what and still people think it will be different for them.

    That’s why I am convinced the US will go through terrible times until it can get better.

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    There are plenty of illegal Caucasians from eastern Europe. Basically untouched by the US version of the SS and NKVD.

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    I dont know why they even mention the bit about criminal history. It would be no less heinous if she did have a criminal record.

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      It’s because the justification that the Administration keeps giving is that they are getting “criminals” off the streets. So it’s worth in these articles when ICE picks up citizens who have no criminal record. It directly illustrates how they lie.

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        I just wish we would stop letting fascist dictate the language thats used. We should stop playing into the performance of what they’re doing. Don’t afford it ant legitimacy. There’s no contradiction in their behavior, because nothing they say is real. What is real is their hatred for minorities. What is real is their fascist takeover of the country. And the mass targeting of racialized minorities.

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          The problem is that, as US government officials, their words matter. Their official statements are newsworthy, even if they are lies. The media can’t really ignore what they say. They can, however, illustrate when they are lying, even if this Administration throws a hissy-fit over it.

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            Its just that in doing so you are legitimizing what they say to begin with. By pointing out the contradictions over and over you aren’t actually swaying them or any of their followers. Because they’re bigots. They’re white supremacists. It was never about anything else. They want to deport minorities. They want a white ethnostate.

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              I think you are confusing the legitimacy of their positions and their message. Their positions are legitimate because, unfortunately, they gained their positions legitimately, either through elections or some other documented process. That’s on us, ultimately. That makes what they have to say a matter of public record, and newsworthy. (There are a handful of Administration positions that are illegitimate, such as all these acting US attorneys, and the Courts are dealing with that separately.)

              The message is utter bullshit, and at least in some cases, not what their voters intended when they cast their vote. But how will those voters ever know if the message is never challenged in the first place?

              I believe it is possible to report the Administration’s positions, while also attempting to hold them to account. The alternative is for the media to ignore it altogether. But we all know Conservative media won’t do that. If other media simply refuses to cover the Administration entirely, that doesn’t invalidate their message. Only by letting us know what they are saying, as well as how bonkers it all is, do we have any chance of emerging from this.

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    Carrying your documents around seems like a great way to have them stolen from you during your ‘arrest’. You’d be lucky to see them again.

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      Right. I hear people pushing passport cards. I can so easily imagine

      “Here’s my passport card”

      “Thanks”


      “Where’s your id?”

      “I gave you my passport card”

      “No you didn’t/what passport card?”

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    when ICE decides you look like an immigrant.

    Not surprising they have all sorts of Aryanisms as they seek to carve out a white ethnostate.

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    Most of them can’t read or function at a adult level. They get paid by the kidnapping so they don’t care enough to look for proof.

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    Lol omg. Imagine living in a country where you have to carry citizen paperwork around or get fucked over because you’re a different colour. What a shithole.

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      no no, that “or” should be an “and” – having paperwork doesn’t save you from getting fucked over

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      “Carry your social security card!”

      Why, so they can just rip it in half and call it fake documents? Pass. Just fuckin illegally arrest me and let’s get it over with.