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  • yesman@lemmy.world
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    3 months ago

    AI doesn’t exist. This is like asking an atheist why they hate god.

    If you’re talking about LLMs and the like, they’re unpopular on Lemmy because tech people are over represented here and tech people understand how these technologies work and why all the hype isn’t just false, but malicious.

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      3 months ago

      You mean a bunch of advertising and media companies that control and gatekeep the news are hyping something that’s making them trillions of dollars? That seems… so unbelievable!

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        Isn’t the “AI” boom making very little for the companies hawking it and making trillions for the hardware providers? I feel like it’s analogous to the people that sold shovels & pickaxes during the gold rush.

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      Today my boss asked me why Gemini suggested made up columns when he was trying to query our database. I just told him it also makes up fake tables.

      This shit is half baked and really never should have been foisted on the public.

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        This shit has cost the investors untold money, and it was promised to revolutionize the world, so by golly it will, by force if it must.

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    I don’t hate AI, LLMs are incredibly powerful tools that have an incredibly wide range of uses. The technology itself is something that’s very exciting and promising.

    What I do hate is how they’re being used by large corporations. A small handful of big tech companies (Google, Microsoft, Facebook, OpenAI, etc) decided to take this technology and pursue it in the greediest ways possible:

    1. They took open source code, built on top of it, and closed it off so they could sell it

    2. They scrapped all the data on the internet without consent and used it to train their models

    3. They made their models generate stuff based on copyrighted works without permission or giving credit, thus basically stealing the content

    4. But that wasn’t enough for them so they decided to train their models on every interaction you have with their LLM services, so all your private conversations are stored and recycled even if you don’t want that to happen

    5. They use the data from the conversations that you’ve had with the chatbots to build customer profiles about you that they sell to advertisers so they could send you hoards of personalized ads

    6. They started integrating their LLMs into their other products as much as they could so they could artificially increase their stock prices

    7. They aggressively campaign for other companies to buy and integrate their models so both parties could artificially increase their stock prices

    8. In order to meet their artificially induced demand, they’re sucking the life out of the electricity grid, which is screwing over everybody else

    9. They’re also taking over the hardware industry and killing off consumer electronics since its more profitable for manufacturers to sell to AI companies than to consumers

    10. They’re openly bribing, lobbying, and campaigning governments to give them grants, tax breaks, and keep regulations at a minimum so they could do whatever they want and have society pay for the privilege

    11. They’re using these LLMs to cut as many jobs as possible so they could penny pinch just a little more, hence the massive waves of recent layoffs recently. This is being done even if the LLM replacements perform far worse than humans.

    12. All of this is being done with zero regard to the environmental damage caused by them with their monstrous data centers and electricity consumption

    13. All of this is being done with zero regard to the harmful impacts caused to people and society. These LLMs frequently lie and spread misinformation, they feed into delusions and bad habits of mentally unwell people, and they’re causing great damage to schools since students could use these models to easily cheat and nothing can be done about it

    When you put all of this together, then it’s easy to understand why people hate AI. This is what people oppose, and rightfully so. These corporations created a massive bubble and put our economy at risk of a major recession, they’re destabilizing our infrastructure, destroying our environment, they’re corrupting our government, they’re forcing tens of thousands of people into dire financial situations by laying them off, they’re eroding our privacy and rights, and they’re harming our mental health… and for what? I’ll tell you, all of this is done so a few greedy billionaires could squeeze a few more dollars out of everything so they could buy their 5th yacht, 9th private jet, or 7th McMansion. Fuck them all.

    • pulsewidth@lemmy.world
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      When people say “I fucking hate AI”, 99% of the time they mean “I fucking hate AI™©®”. They don’t mean the technology behind it.

      To add to your good points, I’m a CS grad that studied neural networks and machine learning years back, and every time I read some idiot claiming something like “this scientific breakthrough has got scientists wondering if we’re on the cusp of creating a new species of superintelligence” or “90% of jobs will be obsolete in five years” it annoys me because its not real, and it’s always someone selling something. Today’s AI is the same tech they’ve been working on for 30+ years and incrementally building upon, but as Moore’s Law has marched on we now have storage pools and computing power to run very advanced models and networks. There is no magic breakthrough, just hype.

      The recent advancements are all driven by the $1500 billion spent on grabbing as many resources they could - all because some idiots convinced them it’s the next gold rush. What has that $1500 bil got us? Machines that can answer general questions correctly around 40% of the time, plagiarize art for memes, create shallow corporate content that nobody wants, and write some half-decent code cobbled together from StackOverflow and public GitHub repos.

      What a fucking waste of resources.

      What’s real is the social impacts, the educational impacts, the environmental impacts, the effect on artists and others who have had their work stolen for training, the useability of the Internet (search is fucked now), and what will be very real soon is the global recession/depression it causes as businesses realize more and more that it’s not worth the cost to implement or maintain (in all but very few scenarios).

  • drhodl@lemmy.world
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    3 months ago

    I don’t hate AI. I just hate the untrustworthy rich fucks who are forcing it down everyones throats.

  • Sunflier@lemmy.world
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    I hate AI because it’s replacing jobs (a.k.a, salaries) without us having a social safety net to make it painless.

    We’ve replaced you with ai

    -CEO

    Ai is replacing most of the jobs, and there isn’t enough open positions to be filled by the now unemployed.

    -Ecconomists

    I need food stamps, medical care, housing assistantance, and unemployment.

    -Me

    No! Get a job you lazy welfare queen!

    -Politicians

    Where? There aren’t any.

    -Me

    Not my problem! Now, excuse me while I funnel more money to my donors.

    -The same politicians

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      The good news is, while automation like robot arms is continuing to replace humans, the AI aspect of it has been catastrophic and early adopters are often seen expressing remorse and reverting changes.

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    It’s built on ‘slave’ labor, illegal use of content and additionally using unbelievable amounts of power so the environmental concerns go right out of the window at a time where we should do everything to not do that.

    Also, AI, even if it’s the currently established term has absolutely nothing to do with neither intelligence nor sentience but is being sold as AGI (overpromised).

    This has caused huge masses of investment to gather which will pop at some point, causing all of us massive issues due to the missteps of a few.

  • givesomefucks@lemmy.world
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    Why do you keep making and deleting so many accounts?

    If you kept the same one, a lot of people would block you and stop down votng every post you make from a new account

  • melsaskca@lemmy.ca
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    Anything the billionaire cabal pushes on us I automatically hate. Don’t even need to know what it is. If they are pushing it you know there is some nefarious shit under the hood.

    • FEIN@lemmy.world
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      maybe its a genuine question… maybe theyre asking why do you hate ai, not why do you hate ai

  • ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world
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    AI is only looks good if you’re an outsider to the profession. The moment you’re even an amateur, you’ll see all of its faults. It’s just a plagiarizing machine with a built-in contextual search function (any AI model that runs as an actual contextual search instead of a wannabe assistant with a flattering personality?), that can make some crappy looking and weirdly specific clip art, stock music with funny-sounding gimmicks, and buggy code you’d better plagiarize from public domain licensed code from Github.

  • Underwaterbob@sh.itjust.works
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    AI is trained on the Internet. Look at the bullshit on the Internet. AI will take some random schmoe’s bullshit opinion and present it as hard fact.

    That, and it just re-introduced the problem of being able to see search results without visiting any of the resultant websites. The last time, sites ended up burying answers down the page to avoid being able to see results in search previews. Making everything shittier. What kind of response is there going to be to AI summaries? Everything will undoubtedly get even shittier as sites try to get people to visit and not just read the AI summary. Hello even more obfuscation. We’re taking the greatest method of spreading information around the globe ever devised and just absolutely filling it to the brim with bullshit.

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    Not sure about “hate”, but it’s clearly a bubble and all the billions are going into AI and not things that could prevent an economic downturn.

    Even if you’re not opposed to it for copyright or environmental or social reasons, AI is currently wrecking markets and finances for the next decade.

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    I’m still waiting for it to appear and then lets ask them how they like it. Its not like the garbage we have now is really AI.

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    The technology is way too resource intensive for the benefit it gives. By resource, I mean environmental and technological. Have you seen the prices of DDR5 RAM? Microsoft is actually working to bring TMI 1 back online. TMI = Three Mile Island as in a full sized nuclear reactor that has been retired from service since 2019. The only reason why they are not bringing TMI2 back online is because IF F$%KING MELTED DOWN IN 1979.

    Add to that Micron exited the consumer market to provide memory to the AI market only… What the actual F#$k?

    Now the bubble has formed and the people that shoved tens of billions into it are trying to fill that bubble by any means necessary. Which means the entire population of this country are constantly bombarded by it for purposes it is ill suited to.

    When, not if, this bubble pops it’s going to be a wild ride.

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      At some point, we should legislate that all non production tech buisnesses have to be energy positive- as in 'wanna build a data center? Its got to have more solar/ wind etc, tha it uses or its unpermitable.

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    Huh… so it’s getting its advice scrape from Reddit. Now it makes sense where it’s getting the idea of telling teens to die by suicide. That place is a shithole where intelligence goes to die.