This is territory I thought I would never have to think about but something stinks lately to say the least.
No. The power of the pardon is explicitly granted to the President in the text of the Constitution, and it provides no mechanism for reversing such pardons. It’s meant to be a check against unjust laws and/or corrupt courts, and presidents who would corruptly abuse the power for their own profit are supposed to be removed from office via impeachment—but as we’ve seen, Congress won’t even remove a president who orchestrates a mob attack against themselves as part of a scheme to overthrow an election.
Go read the actual text of the US Constitution . The answer is a quirky technical “well, theoretically yes but practically no.”
https://constitution.congress.gov/browse/article-2/section-2/clause-1/
The President … shall have Power to grant Reprieves and Pardons for Offences against the United States, except in Cases of Impeachment.
That last emphasized line means that if the US Congress were to impeach and remove a president for bribery or a criminal conspiracy, they could also negate any pardons given to POTUS’s collaborators.
Of course, since no US President has ever been removed from office by congress’s impeachment power, and it’s uncertain if a post-term impeachment and conviction would itself pass the inevitable SCOTUS appeal, this is even less likely than the US Congress awarding a no-majoroty electoral collage vote to the other major party.
I thought the intent behind that wasn’t to revoke previous pardons, but was to prevent a president from pardoning themselves in an impeachment trial.
I think you would struggle to find any serious Constitutional scholar who would agree with your interpretation. “Except in cases of impeachment” is clearly a limit on what cases a president has the power to issue a pardon, not a retroactive “unpardoning” of cases after a president has been impeached. In fact the retroactive nullification of a pardon seems to fly in the face of a basic judicial principle that hold decisions to be final.
I’m pretty sure that to re-incarcerate someone after they were pardoned would require a new trial, which would violate the double jeopardy clause.
Using traditional logic and precedent: no.
In the context of the brave new world we find ourselves in, in which the Tribunal of Six have given the president effective carte blanche to do pretty much anything so long as it’s “an official act” (where an “official act” is defined, as far as I can tell, by the president saying “this is an official act”): lots of things, including
- siccing one of the various spec ops teams from the Do
DW or DoJ on them - declaring open season on said person, including a bounty and guaranteed presidential pardon
- inviting them to a meeting and then shooting them in the face
- etc
Seriously, it’s anyone’s guess at this point. The bones of the system are crumbling, and many have already been shattered, likely irreversibly. The only thing holding this shitshow up at this point are load-bearing posters.
Tribunal of Six
Sounds too legitimate.
More like the Junta of Six
- siccing one of the various spec ops teams from the Do
Nope. Otherwise Nixon would have been unpardoned by Carter.
Yes, US Supreme court says the president can order Seal teams to do stuff (if you know what I mean 😏)
Just hope the next president has a spine
I don’t know, but I would be fine if the presidential pardon was abolished. Perhaps replace it with only a stay of execution.
Nope. Trump is out to do as much irreparable damage as he can to own the Libz and there’s shit tons of nothing that a lot of people are willing to do about.
So Trumps threat to undo all the pardons Joe Biden did for his family cannot really be undone?
Correct. That’s why he tried to talk so much about the auto pen. The claim being that Biden did not even know what was being signed, so that they were ‘never actually pardoned.’ Which is bull shit, just for the record.
I don’t think so, no. He’s a fat fucking troll. He’s full of all the shit one can stuff into a giant diaper. He wants us having this discussion and not the one that’s about him fucking kids.
