This is like your boss finding shit to do when there’s nothing to do.

  • Em Adespoton@lemmy.ca
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    3 months ago

    Hegseth criticizes Scouting for being “genderless” and for promoting diversity, equity and inclusion.

    Imagine thinking this is a BAD thing.

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      Imagine thinking it’s true.

      The Boy Scouts of America had to be dragged kicking and screaming into the 21st century by way of multiple sexual abuse scandals, a dwindling membership, and repeated bankruptcy.

      This isn’t DEI, it’s a desperate appeal for more warm bodies in the program to shore up a dying movement.

      It’s BAD in the sense that Scouting has largely become (arguably always had been) an MLM run by and for the benefit of a few connected business savvy insiders. And drawing in more grist for the mill only delays the inevitable failure of this corrupt and sclerotic institution.

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        It’s BAD in the sense that Scouting has largely become (arguably always had been) an MLM run by and for the benefit of a few connected business savvy insiders.

        Could be worse: could be Girl Scouts.


        Seriously though, if both Girl Scouts and “Scouting America” suck, is there some other alternative (short of not participating in a scouting-like organization at all)?

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      But this is a fairly recent thing that Boy Scouts has become more inclusive.

      My kids were just moving up when they were opening cub scouts. As a parent I thought it was great that it made it more family oriented. No one complained about the girls, no one complained that women were now able to run camping events, no one complained that there were entire families at camping events.

      I have no idea how they approached it for Boy Scouts.

      But the thing is, this is change, recent change. And change is scary. Regressives want to hold back change, even to a past more mythical than real

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      I mean, it’s kind of a bad thing when the literal whole point of Boy Scouts was to foster masculine qualities for boys. They had Girl Scouts for something else. And you could create a third Genderfree Scouts instead but no, they just got rid of Boy Scouts.

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        Ah yes the masculine qualities of camping in the woods. Helping out the community, and doing crafts. Wait…

        Since when is messing around in the outdoors, helping out in the community, and making things masculine?

        Can’t wait to tell my mom she’s a man! And I’ll be sure to remind my dad who’s a lot more of a homebody and enjoys making experimental deserts he shoulda joined the girlscouts…

        Values are masculine and feminine as perceived by society not as a result of any inherent “energy”. Let people do what they want and don’t force labels down their throats.

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          When did I imply people shouldn’t do what they want? Ah yes, the classic ‘make up a thing to get mad about’ activity of keyboard warriors.

          You’re basically being the “what is a woman?” guy. Masculinity and femininity can exist without being defined. Just let them be.