• Aeri@lemmy.world
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    Silly answer not serious but.

    That entire area of the world is obviously cursed and doomed to eternal conflict. Therefore we should just make it a wildlife preserve so that the only people fighting over it are animals.

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    automated turrets run by the UN general assembly (not the security council) to enforce the boundaries Israel agreed to before the nakba. If Israel wants to use bribery, fne, but they should be made to buy off half the world, not just the US.

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    Demand that the Israeli government end all military operations now underway and participate in an effort to reconstruct their society as a pluralistic, inclusive democracy. When they don’t comply, end all US financial aid. Then, if they don’t comply, sanction them. Then, if they don’t comply, blockade them. Then, if they don’t comply, assemble and international coalition and invade them. Depose the current leadership, arrest them and try them at the ICC. Establish an interim government that is designed to reconstruct their society as a pluralistic, inclusive democracy. Set milestones that gradually return local control as they achieve and demonstrate stable, responsible, and moral civic character.

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    Palestinians get their land back, and they get to decide the details. Simple as that.

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    Because smarter people than me have tried but did not quite put the effort in. Therefore I, a random self proclaimed expert on the Internet, will solve it taking into account what the people living there want, all the foregin interests and of course reality and the fact that people tend to hate and blame anyone different than them as soon as anything goes even slightly wrong. This will all be summarised in an easily understood text that is two paragraphs long.

  • Widdershins@lemmy.world
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    israel wants an iron dome. We should build a huge iron dome to go over israel and it should be thick enough to keep god out.

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    I don’t have a serious idea, so let me tell you about my flights of fancy.

    I zap the current Israeli administration’s family members with a de-aging ray to turn them back into babies. Then I travel back in time ten years and adopt them into Gaza families. Then I let them know what I did.

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      If you could back to the past why not try to convince Herzl’s parent to not give birth to him

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    There is the Saif al-Islam Gaddafi Isratin proposal:

    The Gaddafi Isratin proposal intended to permanently resolve the Israeli–Palestinian conflict through a secular, federalist, republican one-state solution, which was first articulated by Saif al-Islam Gaddafi, the son of Muammar Gaddafi of Libya, at the Chatham House in London and later adopted by Muammar Gaddafi himself.

    Its main points are:
    • Creation of a binational Jewish-Palestinian state called the “Federal Republic of the Holy Land”;

    • Partition of the state into five administrative regions, with Jerusalem as a city-state;

    • Return of all Palestinian refugees;

    • Supervision by the United Nations of free and fair elections on the first and second occasions;

    • Removal of weapons of mass destruction from the state;

    • Recognition of the state by the Arab League.

    Similar to the Binational State Solution advocated by the Palestinian leadership and some others prior to the Nakba.

    Partition was used to justify Setter Colonialism and Ethnic Cleansing

    The Zionist position changed in 1928, when the pragmatic Palestinian leaders agreed to the principle of parity in a rare moment in which clannish and religious differences were overcome for the sake of consensus. The Palestinian leaders feared that without parity the Zionists would gain control of the political system. The unexpected Palestinian agreement threw the Zionist leaders into temporary confusion. When they recovered, they sent a refusal to the British, but at the same time offered an alternative solution: the partitioning of Palestine into two political units.

    • Pg 132 of Ilan Pappe - A History of Modern Palestine

    On 31 August 1947, UNSCOP presented its recommendations to the UN General Assembly. Three of its members were allowed to put forward an alternative recommendation. The majority report advocated the partition of Palestine into two states, with an economic union. The designated Jewish state was to have most of the coastal area, western Galilee, and the Negev, and the rest was to become the Palestinian state. The minority report proposed a unitary state in Palestine based on the principle of democracy. It took considerable American Jewish lobbying and American diplomatic pressure, as well as a powerful speech by the Russian ambassador to the UN, to gain the necessary two-thirds majority in the Assembly for partition. Even though hardly any Palestinian or Arab diplomat made an effort to promote the alternative scheme, it won an equal number of supporters and detractors, showing that a considerable number of member states realized that imposing partition amounted to supporting one side and opposing the other.

    • Pg 181 of Ilan Pappe - A History of Modern Palestine

    This ongoing Settler Colonialism annexing the West Bank continues to make a Two State Solution less possible, it has already divided the West Bank into hundreds of isolated enclaves. This Apartheid State needs to end as a binational state for all Palestinians and Israelis.

    Here are resources by Historians about a One-State Solution. In many ways, it’s already a One-State, an Apartheid State, this change would be the emancipation of Palestinians to bring forth a One-State with equal rights.

    The settlements represent land-grabbing, and land-grabbing and peace-making don’t go together, it is one or the other. By its actions, if not always in its rhetoric, Israel has opted for land-grabbing and as we speak Israel is expanding settlements. So, Israel has been systematically destroying the basis for a viable Palestinian state and this is the declared objective of the Likud and Netanyahu who used to pretend to accept a two-state solution. In the lead up to the last election, he said there will be no Palestinian state on his watch. The expansion of settlements and the wall mean that there cannot be a viable Palestinian state with territorial contiguity. The most that the Palestinians can hope for is Bantustans, a series of enclaves surrounded by Israeli settlements and Israeli military bases.

    • Avi Shlaim

    How Avi Shlaim moved from two-state solution to one-state solution

    ‘One state is a game changer’: A conversation with Ilan Pappe

    One State Solution, Foreign Affairs

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    A one-state solution with a robust diplomatic and internal affairs structure to support claims of hostility and bigotry, run by a nonpartisan and multiethnic Arab-Israeli human rights coalition. Dismantle the Gaza wall and blockade, and integrate Hamas as a political party (if the Likud are fine, then the Knesset has no god damn excuse.) Maintain a UN-managed board of human rights as counsel and a referee in matters concerning integration. Review the arrest of every political prisoner in Israel, and release nonviolent offenders. Extend a formal apology to conscientious objectors. Revoke the mandatory IDF draft policy and switch to volunteer primacy. Take every step and every measure to ensure that Palestinians ARE, IN EVERY WAY, equal in a state that is no longer an ethnocracy. REBUILD GAZA, with Gazans in charge, starting with homes and hospitals.

    Furthermore, extend right of return to Palestinians, irrevocably and in perpetuity.

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    Cut off American funding to Israel.

    Move Israels borders back to its 1945ish pre-Nakba borders. Return the land to the Palestians.

    Prosecute every member of the IDF and all of its pro-genocide politicians at the Hague.

    For any Israeli not spending the rest of their lives in jail, DNA tests for all of the rest. If they have markers that say their ancestors are from that area, they can stay. Every other one gets shipped back to their parent countries or any country that will take them.

    The US is currently getting rid of plenty of “illegal” Hispanic people so there should be plenty of similar jobs/housing for any incoming Israelis. I mean we took in Nazis after WWII…

    Let the flames begin.

    Edit: And just to be clear, the DNA testing is merely a formality. Everyone knows whose ancestors are from that land. It’s a return to pre-Zionist colonization that is the point of that. Plenty of Jews were in Palestine under the Ottomans prior to the demise of that empire.

    It seems foolish to claim to understand these facts and still believe that something like a “two state” system can be enacted.

    That’s like expecting 18th and 19th century Americans being expected to actually honor their treaties with the natives. Why do the dance?

    Unless the Palestinians decide otherwise to allow Israel to continue to exist or settlers to stay, etc., why hem and haw about it?

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      For any Israeli not spending the rest of their lives in jail, DNA tests for all of the rest. If they have markers that say their ancestors are from that area, they can stay. Every other one gets shipped back to their parent countries or any country that will take them.

      Not sure I like the idea of genetic purity tests as qualifiers to live in a country, for any country.

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        Israel started to do this and then stopped when they realized that they were just Europeans.

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    Whenever a country is surrounded by enemies, they have only two choices, conquer them, or be conquered. There are no other alternatives, maybe delays to the eventual outcome, it has to go one way or the other. Everything else is just delaying the ending.

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      By that logic there would never be a border between a weak and strong country. So reality itself disproves your idea.

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    March the UN in and take control of both sides. Extinguish both governments. Set up a deadline of 4 years to hold a single state election and state constitution. If not completed then they have to try again every four years.

    Massive rebuilding projects funded by the UN but paying locals for the labor.

    Establish modern healthcare for all.

    Establish required education for all that requires 1 year abroad.

    Remove all physical barriers.

    Religious violence carries extra penalties.

    Basically give them everything they need to figure it out and a common goal of seeking independence from the UN.

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      The UN has no executive power. The major arab countries sold themselves to Israel. The west never stopped supporting Israel.