A judge has dismissed terrorism charges against Luigi Mangione in New York state’s case over the killing of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson.
  • Stamau123@lemmy.world
    2032·
    2 个月前

    In a written decision, Judge Gregory Carro said that although there is no doubt that the killing was not an ordinary street crime, New York law doesn’t consider something terrorism simply because it was motivated by ideology.

    “While the defendant was clearly expressing an animus toward UHC, and the health care industry generally, it does not follow that his goal was to ‘intimidate and coerce a civilian population,’ and indeed, there was no evidence presented of such a goal,” Carro wrote.

    Hope the rest of the trial goes with as much sense as this

  • jordanlund@lemmy.world
    582·
    2 个月前

    Anyone looking at the terrorism charge knew it was bullshit, but check this:

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/sep/16/luigi-mangione-terrorism-charges-dropped

    ““Counts 1 and 2, charging defendant with Murder in the First Degree (in furtherance of an act of terrorism) and Murder in the Second Degree as a Crime of Terrorism, are dismissed as legally insufficient,” Carro wrote. “The People presented legally sufficient evidence of all other counts, including Murder in the Second Degree (intentional).””

    They didn’t just toss the terrorism addendum, they tossed two of the murder charges with the terrorism rider.

  • barnaclebutt@lemmy.world
    24·
    2 个月前

    The cops have totally botched this case. No piece of evidence is not tainted, and that perp walk is enough to bias any jury. He should be let free (for a myriad of reasons).

    • crystalmerchant@lemmy.world
      13·
      2 个月前

      Lmao that helicopter perp walk with the giant sniper/assault rifle guys. Transparently obvious what they were trying to accomplish

  • givesomefucks@lemmy.worldEnglish
    16·
    2 个月前

    In a written decision released as Mangione appeared in court, Judge Gregory Carro said that although there is no doubt that the killing was not an ordinary street crime, New York law doesn’t consider something terrorism simply because it was motivated by ideology.

    Obviously…

    They say killing anyone wealthy is terrorism, because they don’t think fonus as real people.

    They only care about wealthy bigots

  • TrackinDaKraken@lemmy.worldEnglish
    11·
    2 个月前

    Excellent news. Now the prosecution needs to find and convince 12 people that he did it. I’m not sure they have the evidence to do that.

    • givesomefucks@lemmy.worldEnglish
      10·
      2 个月前

      I don’t doubt they have evidence that irrefutably proves he’s the shooter…

      The issue has always been legally admissible evidence.

      I think they broke a shit ton of laws to find out who did it, then failed to retroactively create a “partel investigation” that would have legally uncovered the evidence so it could be used anyway.

      Like, that’s pretty normal for cops. They break laws to solve a crime, make up some bullshit about how they’d have found it anyways, then overcharge to get a plea deal and avoid trial.

      Luigi ain’t taking a plea deal, and while they may very well know it’s him, they can’t prove it in court

      • Lawyerator@lemmy.world
        7·
        2 个月前

        I think the term is “parallel investigation” or parallel construction investigation." I don’t doubt that you are correct though.

        • givesomefucks@lemmy.worldEnglish
          4·
          2 个月前

          Yeah, that’s just a typo.

          The whole thing is bullshit tho. When you already know where you’ll find evidence, it’s easy to justify after the fact how you could have legally been able to search that one place.

          But they can’t narrow it down to that spot except by violating civil rights.

      • JcbAzPx@lemmy.worldEnglish
        11·
        2 个月前

        I do doubt they have evidence he is the shooter. Just the footage taken at the scene has details that don’t match with Luigi at all. He was in the area since the image from the hostel is very likely him, but just being in the general vicinity isn’t enough to convict.

        • givesomefucks@lemmy.worldEnglish
          1·
          2 个月前

          Dude…

          It’s 2025.

          If you think the US government can’t tell who was on a street at a certain time and then search everyone’s cell phones and track where they’ve been to narrow it down to a very small number of people…

          Like

          I dunno what to tell you.

          The sun also rises each morning and sets at night. And Tuesdays usually follow Mondays.

          • JcbAzPx@lemmy.worldEnglish
            1·
            2 个月前

            You are greatly overestimating the diligence of the police. All they care about is finding anyone to pin it on. They’re not doing all that work when they can frame a patsy much more easily.

            • givesomefucks@lemmy.worldEnglish
              11·
              2 个月前

              This isn’t a random crime they don’t care about…

              A wealthy CEO was killed.

              This honestly isn’t that difficult to figure out why it’s different. But I feel like you’ve put zero logical thought into your multitude of strong opinions about this.