Business says it doesn’t serve anyone who is armed
Private business, police are not a protected class, the end.
Lol! “Bigoted and discriminatory”! As if they were born a cop, had no choice to be anything other that a cop, and could never be without a uniform or a weapon. Fuck 'em.
My partner was a charge nurse on a psych ward for 16 years. Many of her interactions with police were as follows:
POLICE: buzzes the desk
My Parnter: Yes?
P: This is officer so-and-so with the so-and-so police department. We have a warrant for the arrest of a patient on your ward. Let us in.
MP: Okay, but this is a secure ward and firearms are not allowed. Surrender your weapons at the security office and I’ll grant you access to make your arrest when you return.
P: I’M NOT SURRENDERING MY WEAPON!
MP: Well, then can’t enter this ward.
end of conversationThey also have to check their guns when they go into places like prisons, so those guys are just idiots.
That sounds delicious to be able to tell them that. I got fired from a retail job I worked for five years for telling customers about the sign on the door that asks them not to carry. Got unemployment so at least the state knew it was bullshit.
“We ban firearms in this establishment.”
“WE’re cops!”
“Got a warrant? Otherwise, you’re violating our rules and regulations and we ask you to leave.”Better yet, have them arrested for trespassing. LMAO
you can try… I’ve actually been there. Sort of.
Used to work contract security. my client was next to a MLB ball field- their parking lot literally was next to the service entrance, so the various staff that weren’t special (concessions, security, etc,) would park there. A lot of their ball game security are moonlighting cops or retired cops… they liked to tail gate after the game… but the city would revoke the license for running a parking lot if we allowed alcohol.
Getting drunken cops to leave your property when the other cops tried to be like “what’s the harm,” etc is no good.
I guess just keep calling the cops just to get the record that you tried to get the alcohol off.
it’s really not that simple. First, if you keep nuisance complaints, they’ll fine you (or in my case, fine my clients. which would have me fired.)
secondly, you annoy the cops enough, they’ll freeze you out regardless of what their policies/rules say, and as a security guard, you’re reliant on them to come save you if you ever have an active shooter or, more likely, just an aggressive asshole who doesn’t like being told they can’t do whatever it is they’re trying to do.Well do it often enough that you can show the city department that you don’t allow alcohol and tried to get them removed (as seen by police records).
you’re reliant on them to come save you if you ever have an active shooter
This is not a good plan, you need to be responsible for your own safety because you can’t count on the imaginary good guy cops to save you from anything. It may be 30 minutes before they show up, or they may not even show up at all.
This is the only plan we got.
Liability is a bitch, ain’t it?
you’re reliant on them to come save you if you ever have an active shooter
…how’d that work out for those kids in Uvalde, tho.
Exactly the point. It didn’t.
That really is a tough one. The only chance you have is to escalate and demand the duty sergeant come down and deal with the problem of his unruly officers or make an extremely public complaint to the media and mayor that will force a response.
Fun story time… a couple of friends of mine were walking home after a night of drinking and some cops pull over and get out and say, “two white men in dark clothes just robbed the gas station down the road and you fit that description.” One friend said, “you’re two white men in dark clothes so you fit that description too. I’m going to have to make a citizen’s arrest.” My other friend said the cuffs got put on them at light speed. They got charged with public intoxication. We don’t know if the two white men in dark clothes were ever caught.
Lol…. So… uh. Please tell me your friend is putting that snark to use,
Sadly, he passed away. And only in his 20s. And yes, we lost a great comic mind. I say this as someone who has been paid to do stand-up and write comedy: he was far funnier than I will ever be. I still miss him 20 years later.
Damn…. I’m sorry man.
I’m sorry too, but that’s life. And the older you get, the more friends you lose along the way. I’m just glad we were friends for the time he was alive.
What are the odds that the police take this snub badly and do something petty and vindictive in return?
1:1
I’d be surprised if they didn’t start harassing those bakeries, sadly
Cops don’t like hearing the word “no” when it applies to them
something something gay wedding cake. Last I checked LEO isn’t a protected class. And they aren’t even denying LEO, just those that come in on-duty and are armed. So yeah, get fucked pigs.
Not all cops are bad. Don’t paint them all with the same brush.
Edit - Jesus y’all want to go lynch some cops. I wasn’t expecting so much bigotry from the crowd here. Confirmation bias is one hell of a drug I guess
Yeah! Just 99%. Don’t lump them all together.
Not allll yardage yadda
The other 1% are also bad for just sitting idle.
You sound like a racist.
Cop is not a race
When you’re reeeeeally fucking dumb, it is
Eh, pig is technically a different species.
Yes, but they are intelligent, useful to society, and quite friendly with a tiny amount of socialization. None of that is true for the average cop. Remember, they HATE being called a Citizen On Patrol.
how is that racist??? are you implying cops are a race lol
Your privilege is showing…
Prejudice comes in many forms. Be better than that
How dare we be prejudiced against the largest criminal gang in the country!
In history. The US cops commit more murder, theft, rape, and assault than any other organization in history. They don’t even have Qualified Immunity, according to the full text of section 1983, but that’s not what was given to SCOTUS in 1982 when they heard Harlow V Fitzgerald.
It’s not prejudice when literally all the evidence supports it. Maybe you’d be process that evidence more clearly without that pig cock cutting off your oxygen supply.
How in the hell do you keep from falling off that high horse?
Yes, they are. Good cops are actively forced out of police departments. It’s a very well documented phenomenon.
Police aren’t a race, orientation or protected class. A cop can in fact remove his gun and uniform, it’s not attached to his skin
Regardless didnt scotus basically rule you can discriminate?
For “creative” endeavors, yes. If “creative” covers baking would probably be down to how good of a argument a lawyer could make is.
odds on there being an ‘incident’ at that location in the near future, and the cops responding stop at dunkin’ for coffee and a donut while on the way there…?
If its legal for someone to hypothetically not create a wedding announcement website for gay people because she doesn’t want to serve those kinds of people, then there should be nothing wrong with not wanting to serve armed cops.
Baking food and making coffee could be argued to be every bit as “creative” as a website can be if the lawyer is good enough.
Does this police chief have beef with the MLB, NFL, NBA, NHL, MLS, and every other major sports organization?
None of them allow firearms on site unless you are on duty
It’s not like they check for concealed carry though. I did security checks for a MLB team for a bit and I definitely waved through guns after they flashed a badge.
And an off duty cop just shot someone at the White Sox game last week
Welp they’re gonna catch a massive fine, and their whole security staff is going to hate their jobs for the next few years.
You might be interested to know that cops, judges, politicians, and all other government officials don’t actually have Qualified Immunity according to the full text of section 1983 of the federal code. The SCOTUS wasn’t handed the full text in 1982 when they heard Harlow V Fitzgerald. The text was changed illegally in 1874 by one guy when he copied the 1871 Congressional Record into the Federal Register.
Look up “16 crucial words that went missing from a landmark civil rights law” for more info.
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/05/15/us/politics/qualified-immunity-supreme-court.html
Look up “16 crucial words that went missing from a landmark civil rights law” for more info.
Why would you go through that entire description and end with that instead of just linking an article about it?
(Having said that, thanks for bringing it up, I hadn’t heard about this.)
There is no debate, the bakery is private property. Fuck off pigs. Also please immediately respond if I call 911 kthxbye
Didn’t SCOTUS rule that private businesses can now discriminate?
Since armed police is not a protected class then I hardly think it matters.
For some more context this place, reems, really isn’t a bakery so much as a middle eastern take out place. The main store is currently closed down though so the only place they have open is a counter serve food court style place in the ferry building, so the cops didn’t get kicked out of the place, they either went to the counter and the cashier refused to serve, or more likely, they saw the new policy online and threw a hissy fit without actually going.
The founder is a Palestinian leftist, so this probably was targeted towards cops/military.
I’d highly recommend going here if your on a tourist trip and end up in the ferry building, not just for the cop hate, but there wraps are great as well.
Can we stop posting articles from The Independent. Its literally owned my a Russian media mogul with ties to Boris Johnson and whose father worked in the KGB
TIL. Thank you, Internet stranger
You’re welcome fellow internet stranger
Based bakery. If the sporting goods store where they bought the piece makes people not carry and they respect that then they should respect other stores that ask people not to.
