Beehaw: You should join our instance.
Also Beehaw: We’re defederating from two of the largest instances.
It’s a safe space and the fediverse rapidly expanded tenfold. Beehaw has stated outright that they want to refederate with the big instances, but are delaying until mod tools improve enough to allow them to maintain their safe space for their gaggle of vulnerable folks in the wake of the severely increased workload.
Safe space, or echo chamber?
It’s literally a safe space, you absolute sea lion.
Please go back to reddit
Sounds like it’s a bit of both tbh
That’s nice and all, but “join our instance” and “we’re defederated from the other two biggest instances” are in direct opposition to each other, doesn’t matter what excuses you use.
Only if you don’t think about it are they not mutually exclusive ideas. Safe space first, increase size of safe space second.
Beehaw: You should join our instance
Where does it say that?
This isn’t Reddit/Meta/𝕏, they don’t get paid for selling more ads. If you don’t know why to join, then don’t 🙂
Beehaw: We’re defederating from two of the largest instances.
Is “largest” a good thing? Reddit is even larger, is that better?
Not all people want to be with all others all the time, smaller instances of like-minded people make it easier to pick your own crowds.
Holy shit guys. If they wanted to have that requirement let them have it, if people wanted to fulfill it and join its good for them. If they wanted to defederate, thats ok too.
Not everyone needs to do what you do.
I’m still a little sad that both solarpunk and beehaw just straight up didn’t respond to my essays back when there weren’t that many lemmy instances yet.
I wrote 3 - 4 sentences and got in.
They want people to join who will make an effort to contribute to their community.
So their “”“essay”“” requirement is working if it keeps out people who think that writing a couple lines is “mental”.
Removed by mod
It’s nice here, but we aren’t totally safe from drama either. In the Kbin Codeberg for example, issue #196 attracted the ire of another developer
Care to elaborate what was said?
It’s not overly long or complicated but here’s a summary:
Original: Codeberg Kbin/kbin-core, Issue #196
OP: Hey Kbin dev, you’re using my code without attribution.
[Comments from other users]
Kbin dev: Oops, my bad. Here are a couple ways I can fix it. What would you prefer?
OP: Attribution.
[Additional comments about license stuff and the nature of open source software]
Kbin dev: Working on it.
OP: [Details of suggested fix].
Issue closed.
I was part of that discussion. There was an ongoing attribution issue where a person claimed their open source project wasn’t being attributed correctly (where it looks like kbin is forked from another older project)
With the Reddit migration and a range of other issues, old mate who manages kbin didn’t get around to fixing the attribution (choosing to focus on getting the server stable and fixing actual issues)
It got brough up again last week in a not so flattering post and within a day or two it was resolved (putting to bed the idea that old mate is actually out to steal people’s code)
Not a great situation overall but it’s great it’s been resolved 🦙🦙🦙
Kbin is part of the Fediverse, 𝖄𝖔𝖚’𝖗𝖊 𝖔𝖓𝖊 𝖔𝖋 𝖚𝖘 𝖓𝖔𝖜
Seriously, I must’ve hit the jackpot or something picking instances because it’s been pretty much nothing but a stable, drama-free experience for me there
Why DO you wanna join? Is it to make sure everybody is nice to you?
Honestly I’m considering leaving even .world. Mods have just been feeling too Reddit-like recently.
I guess that’s the nice thing about the fediverse though.
Beehaw’s mods are definitely not Reddit-like. They’re hard on enforcing the “be nice” rule, so even veiled personal attacks are off the table, and you better be nice to the mods too, or they’ll show you the door.
Whether that aligns more or less with what you’re looking for… you decide. As you said, it’s the nice thing about the Fediverse 🙂
Why would I want to join “Beehaw”? Is it any better than Lemmyworld?
Hey, no cheating!.. /jk
It has a different moderation style and culture. Best explained in the “rules” of the instance, which is a single “be nice” and some commentary. Admins are strict, but fair, and give you a chance to change your behavior if you accidentally break the rule.
Their philosophy and rules were a bit of TL;DR for me.
EDIT: I guess I would be in constant fear of breaking the rules there…
Hehe, the philosophy docs are a honeypot. There is still only a single rule, they just explain why, and what that means. But if you expect a lot of rules, I can see how their size can discourage someone.
They’ve a added some simplified examples, but maybe the honeypot idea has its own merits… 🤔
It worked on me… 😉 Anyway, I am quite happy here in Lemmyworld and this one also does not defederate that much. It’s possible that Beehaw is the little happy island for the people there, and I wish them to remain happy, but I prefer an instance with less rules and less defederation.
I know some peeps are annoyed at the thought of instance drama or writing essays etc. But this is exactly what I wanted.
Beehaw seems like it breeds a toxic environment that’s welcoming to transphobes, so I don’t think I’d want to join
If you had a different nick, I’d ask you what in tarnation made you think that… but it’s hard to take you seriously like this.
Cool, my new username is defusing hostile situations
I’ve never seen that in beehaw, only positive inclusivity… care to share some examples?
Their guidelines say you shouldn’t keep responding to someone who says they don’t want to keep talking. So let’s say someone uses a slur that not everyone agrees is a slur, like the R word. I can’t downvote it, so I report it and reply “no slurs”. They respond “I didn’t use a slur and I don’t want to discuss it with you”. Well now it’s down to the moderators to remove the content, and if they don’t agree with me or they aren’t educated then I can’t do a thing about it.
Back on Reddit people used to use my disability as an insult all the time. I’d downvote, report, and comment. I’d pester the bigot so they’d learn that using slurs is more trouble than it’s worth, and lots of times the moderators would say “that’s not a slur” and leave the comment up, and then 4 weeks later the Reddit admins would come and remove the comment. But by then I’d already persuaded the bigot that using slurs is a huge hassle that only leads to trouble. I had a system. I could fight bigotry myself even though I wasn’t a mod.
On beehaw I’m just supposed to trust that the moderators are perfect? No thanks, I’m an anarchist. I don’t trust anyone unconditionally. It would take a whole lot of effort to persuade me that beehaw is a safe space. Because to me, a safe space is a space where I’m able to defend myself when nobody else will.
How do you know that it worked? Did they just block you/stop responding? Couldn’t you have taken that high ground already?
Surely you’re not arguing by fighting fire with fire you put it out.
