I’m from Mexico, and the most used chat application is WhatsApp. It’s used for EVERYTHING. I use Telegram only for contacting my family members (both my parents and my brother). They also use it only for this family chat. All my (and their) contacts use WhatsApp instead.
Now with the news that Telegram will collaborate with Twitter, I feel that I should delete it. Not that Zuck is any better than Musk, but still…
Also I don’t think it’s worth the effort to teach my parents yet another messaging app, like signal.
Switch to Signal. It’s not like there’s anything to learn, the UI isn’t all that different from WhatsApp
Here’s another comment endorsing Signal.
Telegram was developed by Russians and HQ is in United Arab Emirates. They have always been sketchy af.
I’ve heard good things about Signal, maybe try that?
I really distrust telegram. There are some many dark patterns around it and the server is closed source so I’d say the distrust is very well deserved.
Yes. It’s addictive.
No.
Collaborating with Xitter is not the most distasteful thing Telegram has done. Its marketing model has been to consistently lie to people about being encrypted when that’s only true in very limited cases. It has also catered to criminals by attempting to make it difficult to comply with legal demands for information, while holding that information for its own purposes.
Signal, on the other hand is always encrypted and does its best to hold as little information about users as possible.
Also I don’t think it’s worth the effort to teach my parents yet another messaging app, like signal.
What is there to learn? Every popular messaging app has pretty much the same UI.
Can you use signal?
I’d take Telegram over WhatsApp as I find Telegram, ignoring privacy concerns, is an excellent messenger. Much better than WhatsApp
But, Signal’s pretty great.
If you get rid of Telegran, at least you’d only have one shitty messenger instead of two.
Despite being in the hands of the zuck, whatsapp is more private and secure than telegram, and not because of any collaboration with X/twitter, it’s been that way forever… so go ahead and use it (but if you can, signal is even better on that front).
I’ve been all in on telegram for some time now. Signal just doesn’t feel like it’s iterating fast enough. Few years ago, telegram was blazing through and signal was just a disgusting UI meant to make you feel good that you’re using encryption. That has changed.
The xAI news is a pretty big nail in the coffin. But literally every other alternative is shit. WhatsApp is fully owned and definitely farmed by Zuck for data. Their claims of encryption have eroded by everything they’ve done in AI.
Signal is definitely said to be encrypted. But you can bet there’s a back door in there. Specially with all the recent scrutiny on it in the news, hackers are figuring out ways in.
What’s even left to use?
Sorry, don’t have a solution for you. But the world is ready for another messenger - one that actually cares about people and brings features that people like. Heck, I’ll even pay for it, just like I’ve been paying for telegram.
there’s no backdoor in signal, this is pure FUD. give us even a single source
Did I say there’s a back door? My bad. I meant, there’s probably a zero say that we don’t even know about.
you could say that about literally any project. is the zero day in the room with us together with the alleged hackers living in the server room?
Specially with all the recent scrutiny on it in the news, hackers are figuring out ways in.
I’m assuming you mean the US gov’t debacle? It’s already been proven that they were using a fork, not the genuine Signal app. The fork was built with a back door. As far as I’m aware (and please correct me if I’m wrong) Signal has yet to be hacked and is currently among the most secure options.
It’s almost like the US gov’t might benefit from convincing its citizens that the fully encrypted messaging app is dangerous so they should just go back to Whatsapp and Telegram.
From what I understand, there was no hack nor fork in the recent news about Signal, it was human error, somebody literally invited the wrong person to the chat 🙄
Signal is still secure.
Haha yep inviting the wrong person was absolutely the big issue. I think I read something about it being an unofficial fork out of Israel though, but everything moves so fast these days it’s hard to keep up
BS. The US govt actively tells people to use Signal. Take what you will from that.
And there was a recent report about groups and QR codes. And another about CDN. Look em up.
