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      If I understand correctly, there’s nothing about Firefox that makes ad blockers any harder to detect. What can Firefox and uBlock do to stop Google from blocking adblock users on the site?

      That said, I use Firefox and uBlock myself, and I’ve yet to see YouTube stop me from using the site.

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        They don’t care about Firefox. Chrome is the browser market, they have weakened extensions, they implemented DRM, and here we are.

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        Firefox currently enjoys protection from being “relatively niche” in the browser market (aka not Chromium based trash).

        But if I had to place a bet on which browser would put effort in to protecting your privacy, including which extensions are installed, my bet would be on Firefox over Chrome.

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        i think it’s mainly the list maintainers staying on-the-ball with changes to sites. they can move quicker than a giant corporation can develop, test, and roll-out potentially site-breaking changes that could adversely affect ‘billions’ of users.

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        It has always been my understanding that uBlock and uBlock Origin were two totally different extensions for ad blocking. Is this not correct? Back several year ago when ad blockers were new, I recall seeing two different Firefox listings for them, and people would caution users to get uBlock Origin and not the other truncated named one

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              Yes, it is metamorphical lol. Gorhill is the creator of both uBlock and uBlock Origin. However, he gave the uBlock github repo to another dev, who sold it to adblock plus. Do not download uBlock.

              However, he did fork uBlock and continued to develop his own version, now named uBlock Origin. Do download uBlock Origin.

              PSA: ublock.org is not related to uBlock Origin.

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        The difference is Firefox is not a chromium based browser and thus not subject to googles fucking bullshit, esp when we come to things like web drm

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        Just another Firefox fan boy. They do this shit when as blockers get brought up too as if Brave, Vivaldi, etc isn’t going to strip out the ad blocker nonsense when they build their versions. Just because these versions use Chromium as a base in no way means they have to use their code. Firefox fan boys are too busy talking about Firefox to understand this.

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    I actually didn’t care when there was an ad in the beginning of the video or what not. It was when I had to start watching multiple ads in the middle of a 10 minute video as well. Like come on, not even broadcast TV is that annoying.

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      Shorts are such a stupidly blatant way to start showing more ads than content, and they make navigating channels impossible. Hell you can’t even get away from ads in search results with premium.

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        Noaw I understand why so many people hate shorts! I never use the official app or browser to watch, so I don’t see the advertisements.

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      Same here. I was listening to a beautiful violin piece being played by a soloist and an ad interrupted it. I would be fine with watching the ad before. I immediately went and watched it elsewhere.

      Later, I came back to YouTube for something unrelated and had a message/popup that said ‘tired of being interrupted? Upgrade to premium here!’

      They know exactly what they are doing, trying to make it unbearable to use anything other than premium. They can get fucked.

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      Or, you could buy YouTube TV, which gives you YouTube Premium as a undisclosed bonus I’ve found. A great option because it helps content creators and allows you to cut cable. I may have some bias on the topic of paying for media content services, but in general pirating hurts the creators. I hate that I’m old and wise enough that I might have been more receptive to Metallica’s arguments during the Napster era. I do feel though that it is in the best interest of creators for certain content to be previewable. The problem with YouTube video monetization are that most are not going to be rewatched.

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    People who choose not to watch ads are far more likely to not spend money based on ads. I know that when I see the same crappy ads over and over, yeah, I remember the name of the product, and I remind myself every time never to buy it. I’m more likely to buy from that seller if I don’t see their ads.

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    I don’t think I’ve ever seen the word “allowlisted”. Did someone forget “whitelisted” is a thing, or is that term finally cancelled?

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      It’s not been cancelled.
      I’m sure someone raised concerns over racist origins, or that they were uncomfortable with the terms. Or perhaps programmers did it themselves as a part of introspection that came around with GitHub changing from “master branch” to “main branch”.

      Which likely lead people to realise that blacklist and whitelist aren’t really descriptive.
      Blacklist came from the 1600s, regarding regicide. And the opposite of that is obviously whitelist.
      But it doesn’t actually describe what it’s doing, and ultimately it is an idiom.
      Removing idioms in coding is generally good practice.
      And you can have other things like “FilterList” or “AdminList” or whatever.

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    So, alphabet can rip off the creators but we can’t? What a crappy double standard.

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    Aw that’s so cute, they think they’ll be able to stop adblockers from working for more than a few days. Just like everyone else before them. Good luck with that guys.

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    Just yesterday they stopped allowing me to see home page and recommendations unless I turn on watch history, which I am not doing ever. So they can keep forcing my hand and see how far it goes. If anything am stubborn enough to enjoy this kind of petty behavior from major players. They keep thinking “oh they will just do what we ask them to”, but I’ll do the opposite out of spite. I’ll just use !videos or similar communities to find my recommendations until the day comes where I stop using it completely. I quit Facebook this way, quit Reddit and Twitter, quit WhatsApp. Keep at it guys, let’s see who’s more stubborn.

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      Actually watching only what you search for or are subscribed to is a great way to stop wasting your time on stupid shorts you used to watch for hours a day (at least for me)

      Plus I don’t want an algorithm to feed me stupid things it thinks I would like, that’s what leads to polarization and countless other negative aspects in social media

      Also I suggest to everyone readinh to watch “The social dilemma” a masterpiece that exposes these problems

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        That’s a good point. However I trained YouTube not to feed me crap, couldn’t skip shorts though. What I did was disable search and watch history and then blocked videos and channels that I didn’t want affecting me ever. In time algorithm figured out what I wanted so I got somewhat related and interesting content. Not all of it but a lot of it since they had to focus on my likes and dislikes instead of watch history. This has now changed.

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          When I mentioned the algorithm I meant it was too good at understanding what you like and that leads to polarization

          You just said you trained it in your own way but you were still using it thus getting polarized just like other people

          What I was suggesting is to completely avoid it and just watch what you search and or are subscribed to

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            That’s what I did actually. However in times of boredom new thematically suggested content was useful.

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      I don’t think they care about the small handful of people who will stop watching YouTube over this, to be honest.

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        That is fine by me! But I doubt the number will be so small. Still I don’t care how many. Am not selling my data becauseo others are. -

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      I’ll take some of that action. There needs to be some sort of medical term for the reaction that adverts inspire in me. At this point, it’s pathological. It’s interesting to contrast YouTube’s original form with the abomination it has become today. Almost as if corporations wait patiently while they achieve market dominance before they come out with absurd and Orwellian ethical statements about ‘breaking rules’. Before that it was a big house, come on in and enjoy the cornucopia. No, Google, we will never stop blocking your poison. All we want is the service.

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    I have YouTube ReVanced on my phone. If YouTube ever defeats uBlock Origin on my desktop, I just won’t watch YouTube on desktop anymore. I refuse to watch or view ads.

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    I’m unironically considering ditching any online interaction(s) on the internet and use my PC solely for offline content (write documentaries, texts, play retro games). Because I really don’t want to use the internet with that level of intrusion in my pc.

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      Take any cybersecurity class and you’ll want to burn your tech in a dumpster. In most cases it’s security by obscurity from sheer numbers that hackers/sites don’t give a crap about you alone.

      Additionally, every site you have ever visited tracks your browser, IP, OS, location, and more. This AdBlock tracker is just observing that you have a plugin for ad blocking. That’s the least intrusion that YouTube does.

      In summary, there’s no need to be paranoid, but only because everything that can be stolen or observed already has been.

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        It is like people freaking out over giving out their phone number and SS number. I guarantee you that info is already out there in countless databases.

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    They also started to fight piped and invidous, nevertheless it won’t make me buy their subscription, I’ll just ditch the platform.