• Carighan Maconar@lemmy.world
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      Yeah, people always seem to think the AfD is one united front.

      But they span the whole gamut from Tucker Carlson ultra-right-wing-but-also-no-grasp-on-factual-reality to literally-a-fucking-nazi-wanting-to-burn-jews-themselves-in-their-own-oven.

      They’re abhorrend as a party, and the fact that so much of the shit media in Germany low-key supports them hard and pushes people towards voting for them (namely and chiefly the Axel Springer media landscape which is sadly huge) and as a result they get quite a significant number of votes is… “worrying” to put it mildly. As a German in particular, I have genuine plans how and where to move if shit hits the fan, which at the present rate it will. >.> (Ireland, probably)

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    I hate the AFD so much. Me and lots of other Germans try so hard to show the World that Germany is a modern inclusive and liberal Democracy from its deepest core and then POS like Höcke comes along and does shit like this. And I really can’t understand how anyone at all will believe anything that anyone from this shit show of a political party says. They are willing to sell out Germany to Russia, the have shown that they don’t care about anyone and everything they are interested in is spreading hate and getting in Power. I hate them so much.

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      Like all right-wing parties they lack any actual real agenda. That is, they’re not interested in running the currently existing state, they want their fascist WW3 Nazi Germany with them at the helm. Rather, their entire political “argument” right now is “Current stuff is SHIT!”. That’s how they get all their votes, from people being angry and disappointed.

      But, much as I like to ramble about current politicians (since you can’t call the AfD fuckers “politicians”), things can be shit outside of the control of anyone in particular. As if Höcke could have handled COVID. Imagine what a disaster it would have been if he had any say in it. Imagine how even the nascent efforts at climate would be worse. Inclusion, Russia, education, health, there’s not a single topic the AfD would improve if they got power. And they were openly do not intend to improve anything. They’re completely open about it.

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    First people push for mass abortions of disabled people (see Iceland), next they try to make living disabled people’s lives horrible. Eugenics is making a comeback and nobody cares.

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        I brought this up on your instance and the mod deleted it and called me a slur

        I’d say by the amount of comments on here that no one actually cares in Europe about the rise of Fascism, as whenever it gets brought up, people just deflect. Reddit was notorious for this

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          we really need to find a way to blunt the outside influence on our societies in Europe, a lot of the conservative-fascist push is coming from propaganda media of both the Russian state and rich conservatives like Murdoch (who, btw, is walking a fine line of not quite open neo-nazi at this point)

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          O partigiano portami via O bella ciao, bella ciao, bella ciao ciao ciao O partigiano portami via Che mi sento di morir, ir, ir-

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      I’m more sympathetic to letting people choose to abort fetuses with clear genetic or physical problems.The world isn’t made a better place by more people with down syndrome. Very early genetic testing is helpful here.

      However, not letting these people who do exist, and to some extent will probably always exist, live full enriched lives to the extent that they are able is rather horrible.

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      What does “mass abortions” mean exactly in this context?

      You’re probably talking about Iceland’s “100% abortion rate for people with down syndrome”? Which comes to about 1 or 2 cases per year.

      Exaggerating much?

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        Yeah I was about to ask about that. since a lot of disabilities can’t be detected before birth

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      A lot of younger people don’t know who Hitler was or just assume he’s a funny meme these days. It’s not their fault, this stuff is simply not taught in schools and I fear we’re destined to make the same mistakes all over again.

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    “All children deserve equal participation and more opportunities through inclusive education,” Brandenburg said.

    I concur. Unfortunately I also somewhat concur with this weird guy on this topic because the current system does not result in equal participation.

    The current system results in a lot of unhappy parents and unhappy students and burned out teachers.

    That doesn’t sound or look viable. But it is what we got in a lot of the EU.

    The inclusion project almost always results in exclusion. Only in the first few years it does work.

    After that it quickly becomes very apparent for all the kids that that one kid is different. And that the teacher spends all most all his time on that one kid. Which results in envy and jealousy. And that one kid also feels like shit because of that.

    Kids, like adults, can and will be very mean.

    In the school of my kids I’ve seen it work twice, in 13 years. All the other times it ended with a premature departure of the special needs kid.

    Now I’m not talking about mild autism or mild adhd or a small mental deficiency. Those are manageable and those kids should be teached at a “normal” school. I’m talking about the severe cases of those and syndromes like down.

    (source parent of 3 kids, in the Netherlands with somewhat the same system.)

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      Yeah, I’ve no doubt that Höcke is pursuing this for extremely cynical and gross reasons, but the broken clock is right twice a day. “Inclusion" is one of those policies that sounds so self-evidently positive and reasonable at a glance, that people’s brains shut down and nobody thinks of potential downsides to it as a universal policy. A majority of kids who require special education fare much, much better in smaller classes taught by a special education teacher who can move through material more slowly and boil it down to easier-to-grasp concepts. Sticking them in a large classroom with 20-30 non-disabled peers, even with a SpEd teacher present, rarely has a positive effect, and more often than not leads to worse outcomes for all students present. Inclusion is at its core a cost-saving measure (it’s cheaper to stick the SpEd kids in a GenEd classroom than making a dedicated class for them), but it wraps itself in progressive ideology so well that it’s almost impossible for parents or teachers to argue against.

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      so i come from a much much larger country and I need ask. What is the longest distance a student would need to travel to one of these schools. Over here in Texas we have a special school for the deaf in Austin, which can be more then 15 hours away from some places. So students there often just live at the school. Now for deafness we have hearing aids, CDI and deaf classes can be added to any school. With how rural Texas gets having separate schools would not be a viable option. Take where my mom lives, you could put down a copy of the Netherlands and it would around 10,000 people living in the whole area. With so few people you go years and not run into a single kid with certain disabilities. This makes separate schools completely unusable

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    Jesus, this world man. It seems I read dumb horrible shit every couple days. I always thing, nahh can’t top that and then a couple days later some even more dumb horrible shit is posted.

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      It’s always been like this. It’s just now we hear about it more. But in a way it’s good. It shows we as a society collectively cringe more at this than condone it. Perhaps keeping it public and reminding people why they are stupid and ignorant through public scrutiny and outrage is one way to combat it.

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      George Orwell wrote in 1942, during the war:

      "Pacifism is objectively pro-fascist. This is elementary common sense. If you hamper the war effort of one side, you automatically help out that of the other.“

      With that said conservatism is not fascism, but one enables the other.

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      We’re talking about AfD. They don’t even hide the fact that they are nazis. People who vote for them never really learned from history.