Summary
Episcopal Bishop Mariann Edgar Budde refused to apologize after delivering a sermon at the National Cathedral that criticized Trump’s anti-LGBTQ+ and immigration policies, calling for compassion and mercy for marginalized groups.
Trump responded by attacking Budde on Truth Social, labeling her a “Radical Left hard line Trump hater.”
Budde, known for prior criticism of Trump, said she stands by her message and has received both support and threats.
She emphasized the need for dignity and respect in public discourse to counter the “culture of contempt.”
You heard it here first folks. Jesus was of the radical left.
Right wingers have lost their goddamn minds.
Unironically, Jesus was radical left in many ways. Many Christians do not like to confront those aspects of the bible.
Let criminals into your home. Give them shelter and food. Give all of your money to charity. If someone harms you, turn the other cheek. Feed the poor before yourself. Brutally whip greedy wealthy people. Those are just some fun examples.
If someone harms you, turn the other cheek.
This is a bit of an aside, but the “turn the other cheek” passage from the bible is interpreted in multiple ways. My favorite is:
The scholar Walter Wink, in his book Engaging the Powers: Discernment and Resistance in a World of Domination, interprets the passage as ways to subvert the power structures of the time.[3] At the time of Jesus, says Wink, striking backhand a person deemed to be of lower socioeconomic class was a means of asserting authority and dominance. If the persecuted person “turned the other cheek,” the discipliner was faced with a dilemma: the left hand was used for unclean purposes, so a back-hand strike on the opposite cheek would not be performed. An alternative would be a slap with the open hand as a challenge or to punch the person, but this was seen as a statement of equality. Thus, by turning the other cheek, the persecuted was demanding equality.
So it’s kind of like a pre-medieval gentlemanly way of saying “let’s take this outside”?
It’s what MLK did so well, and honestly, this is the first step to breaking the GOPs monopoly on religion and the Southern Strategy.
“And all who believed were together and had all things in common. And they were selling their possessions and belongings and distributing the proceeds to all, as any had need. And day by day, attending the temple together and breaking bread in their homes, they received their food with glad and generous hearts, praising God and having favor with all the people. And the Lord added to their number day by day those who were being saved.” Acts 2:44-47 ESV
Sounds pretty radically left to me.
And they were selling their possessions and belongings and distributing the proceeds to all, as any had need.
Huh, sounds vaguely familiar… Something like, “from each, according to their ability, to which according to their need”?
Except for brutally whipping greedy people, I don’t think any of that is radical at all.
It isn’t, but we’re talking about Trump’s definition of radical.
where does Jesus say to feed the poor before yourself?
I’ll be real with you, I have no idea, but I do know that that sentiment is expressed several times in several different parts of the bible. It’s not one of the more popular messages with the standard Christian crowd.
It isn’t though? It’s you should feel hungry people when you are not hungry.
Nobody wants you to do that, shut up.
Jesus told you that if you saw a guy who needs clothes and you have clothes you aren’t wearing you should give that guy some clothes. This was a strong inspiration for a major philosophy that for some reason many “Christians” hate called Marxism
Let me make one final plea, Mr. President. Millions have put their trust in you and, as you told the nation yesterday, you have felt the providential hand of a loving God. In the name of our God, I ask you to have mercy upon the people in our country who are scared now. There are gay, lesbian and transgender children in Democratic, Republican, and Independent families, some who fear for their lives. The people who pick our crops and clean our office buildings; who labor in poultry farms and meat packing plants; who wash the dishes after we eat in restaurants and work the night shifts in hospitals. They…may not be citizens or have the proper documentation. But the vast majority of immigrants are not criminals. They pay taxes and are good neighbors. They are faithful members of our churches and mosques, synagogues, gurudwaras and temples. I ask you to have mercy, Mr. President, on those in our communities whose children fear that their parents will be taken away. And that you help those who are fleeing war zones and persecution in their own lands to find compassion and welcome here. Our God teaches us that we are to be merciful to the stranger, for we were all once strangers in this land. May God grant us the strength and courage to honor the dignity of every human being, to speak the truth to one another in love and walk humbly with each other and our God for the good of all people. Good of all people in this nation and the world. Amen
(This is the end of the sermon, the part that addresses Trump. I couldn’t find the full text.)
Yup definitely a radical left hard line trump hater. /s
If someone feels that is true, then turns around and threatens this woman or believes she needs to be reported, they need to seriously take a closer look at themselves.
they need to seriously take a closer look at themselves.
Americans not being able to look at themselves critically is how we got here.
Apparently we Americans need a much harsher, more personal and painful lesson before we learn to treat everyone with respect and change our priorities.
It’s looking like we’re going to go through a dark period before this happens, if it ever happens.
Lol.
There are so many fake Christians in this country.
Glad this woman stood up for what’s right and attempted to remind all the fake Christians what their religion is supposed to be about. And kudos to her for not backing down to a fascist.
Amen. I am often critical of organized religion but every now and then I’m reminded that it’s not all rotten.
She’s such a hero. I’m really inspired by her bravery and mindset. She said in a NYT interview:
“I had a feeling that there were people watching what was happening and wondering, Was anyone going to say anything?” she explained quietly in an interview on Tuesday night. “Was anyone going to say anything about the turn the country’s taking?”
That should be the question to anyone in power - were you not going to say something?
Budde, known for prior criticism of Trump, said she stands by her message and has received both support and threats.
I wonder why there’s always threats when someone asks people to have mercy and empathy. Are some people really that soft that they can’t hear opposing viewpoints?
The best part is that it’s basically what Jesus did. “Be kind to each other, have mercy”. The romans nailed him to a cross.
Are some people really that soft that they can’t hear opposing viewpoints?
Yet if you deplatform these nazis, they say exactly that.
Good. She has nothing to apologize for.
Episcopal’s are keeping it real. If I was going to be a christian it would be them.
“Radical Left hard line Trump hater.”
That’s his go to for anyone who disagrees with him. It’s almost comical how leftists on Lemmy do the same thing with calling everybody and everything a Nazi or fascist if you don’t agree with them. The words just lose meaning after a while.
I can already predict the onslaught of “BUT THEY ARE NAZIS” responses completely and utterly missing the point.
I can see how some people can be a tad dramatic at times with rhetoric, but the writing is on the wall in regard to the Nazi salute Elon Musk did at his speech. You have to call a pig, a pig, no matter how much lipstick it might have on to distract you from the fact otherwise.
But I digress a bit. What exactly is the point you were referring to, that I and others seem to be missing? That Trump’s words are just words and because other people who don’t have anywhere near the power/authority/wealth say things in a similar manner back at him/his “friends” his actions and speech should be dismissed, justified even??
What exactly is the point you were referring to, that I and others seem to be missing?
Blessed be - somebody actually asking for clarification before chiding me.
The number of times I’ve been called a “genocide supporter” or “Nazi” on Lemmy for simply saying that Kamala would have been a better choice than Trump is f’ing ridiculous. Or that “yes Nazis have freedom of speech” also gets me called a Nazi. If I hear the ridiculous “Nazi Bar” story one more time I’ll lose it.
Anyone disagreeing with leftist ideals EVEN WHILE AGREEING IN SPIRIT is called a Nazi on here all the time. The word is losing all meaning.
