Yeah but the Chinese one is bad because the American one said so.
I mean, it is actually bad.
We should really ban Xitter as well as the operator is most likely a Russian bot
It was infested by Russian bots even before it was bought by a Russian bot
Meh USA president about to be Russian bot too
Elon got a ton of money from the Saudis to buy Xitter. Wouldn’t surprise me to learn they were pushing the authoritarian centric content.
Not meaning this in defense of Tiktok, but…
If Tiktok doesn’t push this kind of social divisiveness in their own country, it’s because they regulated it in their home country. They’re simply exploiting the fact that the US has basically zero regulations in place, so they’re allowed to promote socially destructive content. Why wouldn’t they? It’s not like what they’re doing is materially different than what Xitter, Meta/Facebook, Reddit, and so on do. Honestly, it’s already happening at Bluesky because we have no rules and rely almost exclusively on site moderators enforcing social decorum rules. If Tiktok in China is “better” it’s because the government there forces it to be, like maybe we ought to consider doing maybe.
The US government just doesn’t like it when it’s not their guys propagandizing and dividing the populace. They want to enjoy the fruits of that, not a foreign actor. The mask is truly off, they really do think their own poverty-striken citizens are the enemy. The government speaks out of both sides of its mouth about backdoors in encryption, with one part of the FBI saying you need to use encrypted services to safely communicate, and another part saying we need backdoors in encryption even though Salt Typhoon literally saw hackers exploit US telecom backdoors that which the hackers still persist in exploiting.
I HATE Chinese spyware used to push Chinese propaganda. I only like AMERICAN spyware used to push AMERICAN propaganda!!! 🇺🇸🇺🇸🦅
Fuck em all.
Let this be a lesson to you all: If you report a post for a reason as stupid as this, I might just let everyone know so they can laugh about it.
P.S. This is Lemmy Shitpost. You can misinform people all you like. Watch: Some camels are actually a type of iguana. But only the Bactrian camels. The rest are types of cacti. And if you drink their saliva, it will cure your gout.
Just want to pitch in and clarify the misinformation topic, since this is something explicitly mentioned in the Lemmy.World TOS, section 8.
Specifically, the type of misinformation that is prohibited is that which is harmful to others. Here’s a direct quote that pretty much sums up the matter:
We DO reserve the right to remove any information posted which COULD cause imminent PHYSICAL harm to any living being
We also reserve the right to remove any sufficiently scientifically proven MALICIOUS information posted which a user may follow, which would result in either IMMINENT PHYSICAL harm to an INDIVIDUALS PROPERTY, the PROPERTY of OTHERS or OTHER LIVING BEINGS.
So that being said, you’re all free to talk all the shit you want. I’m only going to care if the shit you talk is actually harmful.
OPs shit is in no way demonstrably harmful to anyone in any relevant manner. So they get to keep talking it.
Edit: I’ll concede, you may be put in harms way if you try to drink camel saliva. I presume they kick pretty hard. But frankly, you deserve it for trying.
This is exactly the energy I hope for in a shitposting mod. TYFYS
lmfao holy shit, I am truly honored that my content was reported, they took it so much more seriously than I did and I’m the guy who made the post
Wow, any kind of proof behind that? TikTok was one of the few places I could actually watch live journalism from Gaza documenting the genocide, which sure seemed to provoke a propaganda campaign against it and pretty blatantly unconstitutional ban.
Exactly. Yeah, there’s a whole lot of things wrong with TikTok, but banning it is censorship veiled as ‘protecting the children’ and shit.
TikTok was one of the few places I could actually watch live journalism from Gaza documenting the genocide
Undermining your trust in the US media and political leadership. Ergo, Evil Chinese Propaganda.
I’ll see if I can find the write up, but the app was reverse engineered and it did collect an alarming amount of personal data that an app wouldn’t normally be allowed to. Also their algorithm has been criticized for ways it serves political content
https://www.boredpanda.com/tik-tok-reverse-engineered-data-information-collecting/
This is what came up first and had comment from the person who reverse engineered it.
Random anonymous reddit user who didn’t compile his findings into a report pointing to the places in the app binary where these things happen. OK.
Yes, tiktok was absolutely the worst, but it speaks very loudly that the US doesn’t hold other companies to the same standard
They hold every social media company to the same equal standard. Facebook, twitter, google, bluesky, and tiktok are all equally forbidden from operating while chinese.
This is in no way targeted, like not even a little bit… honest
China, Cuba, Iran, North Korea, Russia, and Venezuela
Cuban social media is completely out of control. We should invade immediately
It is illegal to send US Citizens data there.
Actually, when they banned TikTok they also made it illegal for any company to send American data to any adversarial country including China, Russia, Iran, North Korea, Cuba, and Venezuela.
In fact, TikTok could just sell to an American Owner at this very moment and continue operating. They didn’t sell, though. Because they don’t operate for profit. They operate for gain as a hostile foreign military asset.
…so it’s fine if an American company does it?
Sorry, typo it was supposed to say “any company”
Thats the entire point, FaceBook and Google are held to the same exact standard.
China already blocks those services, btw.
They didn’t sell, though. Because they don’t operate for profit. They operate for gain as a hostile foreign military asset.
I’ll take “the conclusion doesn’t follow from the premises at all” for 500 Alex
Well, with this logic, yeah, fuck TikTok (I mean it, what an awful site)… And twitter, and Facebook, and Instagram, and Tumblr (it’s still alive?) and all the social networks that don’t belong to the user homeland!
The shitty American government doesn’t care that fucked up shit is happening to their citizens who it is their sacred duty to serve, they care that China’s doing it, and they want to be doing it instead.
They are blocking it world wide? I never heard any news of it being banned in my country.
it isn’t. but america = the world and everywhere else falls into the niche category of foreign.
Thanks for the clarification. But one other question, why is Lemmy so focused around the U.S., instead of thinking globally?
The phrase “get rekt Imao” mocks TikTok, adding a humorous and dismissive tone.
It’s weird seeing chat gpt analyses something you wrote on someone else’s device, even if it’s something as trivial as a meme like this
idgaf what the jeep tea has to say about anything ever, tbh.
You’re missing out. A lot of cool stuff you can do. I recently had it make a grocery list with prices and recipes that matched my budget and specific tastes for my family. When it was all said and done I was actually under budget by $50 and got a lot of stuff I wouldn’t normally get.
You shouldn’t pay for ChatGPT though. Or use it.
If you can’t self host, Use Deepseek, Qwen Chat, Gemini, Kobold Horde, literally anything but OpenAI. Sam Altman is a straight up con artist.
It’s free…
Everything I listed is free!
AFAIK only OpenAI’s small model is free (not the full GPT 4), and these days it’s really bad compared to other free models.
I like how it’s being banned after the election when the damage is already done.
Edit: Calm down guys. You’ll get a TikTok replacement. There’s always a replacement. Your life will go on. You’ll have other social media networks to be misinformed by.
