Your car is spying on you.

That is one takeaway from the fast, detailed data that Tesla collected on the driver of one of its Cybertrucks that exploded in Las Vegas earlier this week. Privacy data experts say the deep dive by Elon Musk’s company was impressive, but also shines a spotlight on a difficult question as vehicles become less like cars and more like computers on wheels.

“You might want law enforcement to have the data to crack down on criminals, but can anyone have access to it?” said Jodi Daniels, CEO of privacy consulting firm Red Clover Advisors. “Where is the line?”

Many of the latest cars not only know where you’ve been and where you are going, but also often have access to your contacts, your call logs, your texts and other sensitive information thanks to cell phone syncing.

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    3 months ago

    It’s sad how these so-called journalists act as if this is the first discovery of the topic. Like yo, it’s been talked all over last year with pretty much every car company spying on your shit and insurance companies already using that info to raise their prices.

    I mean how far deep your own arses were your heads lodged to not notice this up until now?

    Ffs, this sort of incompetence is astounding from an industry that’s supposed to be the source of news.

    This is slowpoke level meme material.

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    3 months ago

    If it’s got a connection to the internet, then it’s usually a safe bet that the device is spying on you. How easy it is to physically disable the internet connection on my vehicle will be a significant factor in my next purchase.

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    “Is your car spying on you”

    Does a bear shit in the woods? Come on, are people that dumb? You car, phone, TV, Rumba, washer, security camera, and microwave spy on you. In fact anything that sends anything through to your phone or wifi is spying on you.
    It’s about control, and you don’t have it.

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      You car, phone, TV, Rumba, washer, security camera, and microwave spy on you. In fact anything that sends anything through to your phone or wifi is spying on you.

      I have only one smart TV, and it’s not connected to any network.

      I used to have an LG “smart” washer, it was also never connected to any network.

      I have a robot vacuum, it’s incapable of connecting to a network.

      I have several IP security cameras, they are all VLANed and blocked from reaching out to the internet. The recording software is self-hosted and only reachable external through Tailscale (WireGuard). The object detection system I personally built.

      My microwave has buttons from 0 through to 9, start, and stop. That’s it.

      My car is a 2013 Jetta.

      The only thing that spies on me is my phone and general online activity.

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        Serious question: what rewards have you reaped with your privacy diligence? This is coming from a fellow lemming who also does not want his humidifier reporting back on his activities

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          Rewards? Like it’s some game show?

          I guess the rewards are the same when I close the curtains on my windows.

          The rewards are that my images from inside my home aren’t leaked.

          The rewards are better privacy.

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    Yep. And they can report things like speeding and hard braking events, those get uploaded to data aggregation services so the dealer makes $ selling your data, then your insurance company can buy it from the aggregator and raise your rates because they don’t like how you drive.

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      raise your rates because they don’t like how you drive

      That doesn’t sound legal, but who knows in America.

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        You can get tattletale telemetry devices offered by the insurer that will lower your rate if the insurers are happy with your driving. The opposite is true as well, except its buried in your new car purchase contract that the telemetry is collected and sold.

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    Yeah and there’s a WHOLLLLLE lotta Muskovites over in other threads (I’m on the Blåhaj instance) being apologists & straight up lying