• Boozilla@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    Always annoys the hell out of me when politicians say BS like, “We know you like your private insurance plan and want to keep it”.

    So out of touch.

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      It’s not entirely out of touch tho. Trust me, there is a not insignificant sect of the populace that firmly believes if private insurance goes away and the country just dips it’s toes into universal healthcare, the communists have won and the country is ruined beyond repair somehow.

      After talking to a good amount of these folks, I’ll say the absolute bonkers mental gymnastics to justify that line of thought is truly something to behold.

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        I think they were also trying to keep folks who already had decent insurance plans, and there were definitely a bunch. Thinking of people in good careers who were also on the tail end of when employers treated employees better - there were a lot of people doing comparatively well who had (at least somewhat justifiable, we’re talking healthcare) concerns about the idea of single-provider.

        (referring to the “if you like your plan, you can keep it” angle during ACA days)

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    The part I find most puzzling is we just elected a guy who wants to repeal Obamacare along with a lot of other corporate regulations…… this country amazes me

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      A lot of those voters are on Medicare. They aren’t clued into the fact that Trump and a lot of his (real) base would love to completely gut Medicare and Social Security.

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        They’re so clueless they don’t even understand that Medicare is government run free insurance. I’ve literally heard people say things like “The government better keep their hands off my Medicare.”

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      I mean, Obamacare is pretty much a subsidy to the private healthcare industry. It should have been Medicare for all, but instead we got a watered down, rebranded Republican program.

      And they still want to make it worse for us. For money.

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    By definition, a healthcare system based on insurance can’t be as efficient as a universal system. Profits for healthcare companies and hospitals are wasted resources. Also, why the hell is medical school and residency so selective? They basically cap the number of doctors that we can have. We should be increasing the number of doctors. Create a universal system like every other developed country has. Cut out the waste that is private insurance. We pay way more than anywhere else for worse outcomes.

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    I remember being told we loved them and we loved all the choices lol

    My company gets a choice but I never did.

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      I never understood that argument and how people bought it.

      GOP touted choice, you can choose your provider… But most everyone gets 1 choice, the one from work or nothing

      Also then, choose your doctor… But you don’t, the INS company tells you what doctors you’re allowed to see.

      There is no choice, there is no free market when it comes to health care, especially during emergencies… Call 911 for an ambulance, you don’t get to compare prices, you take the 1st one available… You are taken to emergency room, you don’t get time to compare services and pick a hospital, you’re taken to the closest one.

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    The only people who wanted private health care were the industry lobbyists and politicians who wanted to make rich people richer, and the ignorant and selfish citizens that preferred pissing off the libs and refusing care to poor/people of a different skin color.

    Even today there are plenty who seem fine knowingly pissing away more of their paycheck and health security to make a rich industry richer than pay less to an evil government that would offer the same care - and the option to buy your own insurance on top of that.

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    Publicly traded private health insurance that you can only get and “afford” through your ambivalent employer. What’s not to like?

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    Did the author of that article even read their own links?

    Most insured adults (81%) give their health insurance an overall rating of “excellent” or “good,”

    Most of the links they cite are about health care in general, not health insurance.

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      How in the hell are people so blind? Practically everyone I know hates their insurance company, if they even have insurance.

      I wasn’t able to afford health insurance until my early 30s. And really I couldn’t afford it then but since I had malignant melanoma it was the least worst option for me financially. Nearly metastisized because I had to save up and wait for enrollment period. They told me it was 2mm from my bloodstream. About two inches across by the time I was able to afford having it removed.

      My friend offered to have me drink a bottle of liquor and he’d cut it out of my back and I seriously considered it.

      And my credit score got killed for seven years because they wanted $250 per month from me on the after insurance bill. I tried to negotiate, but this was the lowest they would go. My wife and I would have literally starved if we had to pay that.

      I never paid them a cent.

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        I think it tracks. Most people that have a decent plan are also rather healthy. They might use the plan a few times a year for meds and a family doctor visit. Which the insurance is not going to fight you to hard on, so you might perceive the system to be working well. If you are unhealthy then you are about to find out a lot of what the market values.

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        Progress is progress, no matter how small. You want more? Wanna go faster? Yeah, you’re gonna need more CEOs. Good luck with that, god speed. I’ll watch from my couch and well talk good things about you eternally for a good solid week.