Police have shot and killed a polar bear that came ashore in northwestern Iceland, the first sighting of a polar bear there since 2016. It might have hitched a ride from Greenland on a floating iceberg.

  • Flying Squid@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    Except that’s not how Polar Bears prefer to hunt. They prefer to hunt by holes over pack ice, where they wait for animals like seals to surface for air. When there’s no pack ice, which is what is happening thanks to global warming, they hunt for whatever they can on land. And if that land is inhabited by humans, that means humans.

    I would say the potential to kill and eat humans, including infants, is excellent justification.

    Does it suck that this is our fault to begin with? Absolutely. That doesn’t mean that human lives should be put at risk as well.

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      1 year ago

      So tranquilizers and trailers don’t exist in Iceland? They couldn’t just send it back to Greenland?

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        So no map? You said it wasn’t an immediate threat. Where’s your evidence?

        Also, why are you assuming it came from Greenland and why are you assuming that it would survive just being dropped off in some random place in the humongous island of Greenland anyway?

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            1 year ago

            The article that says relocating it to Greenland was a non-starter?

            The article that says this?

            Greenland is an autonomous territory but also part of Denmark — refusing permission either on the grounds of concerns about disease, or because of the local population not being keen on a larger polar bear population on its glacier.

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              1 year ago

              Yes that part and the part about the bear being in the trash outside. Not an immediate threat.

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                  1 year ago

                  I’m guessing if you want a map you can find one online. The article says it was near a summer home.

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                    1 year ago

                    You’re making the claim, not me. It’s not my job to prove you’re not wrong, it’s yours. I know the article says it was near a summer home. I’m not sure why you think that’s relevant unless you think it was the only home in the area. In which case, show that.

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      Humans have lived in polar bear territory for centuries though. So we know it’s possible. Shooting endangered animals on sight because you don’t want to learn how to co-habitate a region is just peak shitty human.

      And they’re bears they can absolutely find other sources of food without killing humans.

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          1 year ago

          That says you’re supposed to scare them off first. Shooting them is a last resort. Not the first resort. In Iceland they made it the first resort by law. That’s the issue.

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            1 year ago

            Got it. As long as the children have a way of scaring off the hungry polar bear when it gets to the school playground, no worries.

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                I see, so post multiple guards around any place children might be just in case the rare polar bear makes landfall on Iceland so it can get scared away instead of mauling children.

                Very reasonable.

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                  1 year ago

                  How do the Scandinavians do recess? Surely they do and they don’t have a magic no polar bear fence. These are solved problems.

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        How the fuck do you imagine “co-habitating” with polar bears??? That’s like starving a wolf and telling it to “co-habitate” with a baby.
        Yes, it sucks that we have forced polar bears out of their natural habit and that they now have to hunt humans for food, however if something starts hunting humans for food it’s just gonna get killed.

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          Nobody in the article said it was hunting humans. That’s pure exaggeration and fever dream shit from the comments section. This entire fucking comments section just assumes polar bears prefer to hunt humans.

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            1 year ago

            It’s not just an assumption. Polar bears will hunt humans. They’re the absolute apex predator in their habitat so why shouldn’t they just hunt everything that moves?

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              Because most animals, including polar bears, have learned to be wary of groups of humans. And nobody is saying they won’t hunt humans. But the article doesn’t support that this one was. The comment section is acting like they’re obligated to hunt humans.

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                1 year ago

                Polar bears are absolutely not wary of humans. You keep talking about the topic as if you don’t really know anything about them.

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                1 year ago

                Lol, polar bears do not avoid humans, that’s like running away from food

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            1 year ago

            They do kill and hunt humans. It’s a fact, not an assumption. It was a threat to people, going closer to inhabited areas. What were they supposed to do, check if this one is a vegan?

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              Nobody said it doesn’t happen. But the article doesn’t support that it was happening there.