I know it’s a shipost and this meme is at least 15 years old. But meat, cheese, and white bread (especially the ones in the US with added sugar) were never healthy
meat, cheese and bread were never healthy, says a man descended from 10 thousand years of meat cheese and bread eaters
it’s about the scale at which these items are consumed - eating meat every day was pretty much unheard of until the advent of capitalism
In some circumstances you’re absolutely right. In many parts of the word, meat was either scarce or difficult to preserve. In other parts of the word, some peoples survived almost exclusively on animal products. The natives on Alaska are the first that come to mind.
Of course “meat” was a very important part of their diet, they relied heavily on organ meats for their essential vitamins and nutrients. They were significantly more humane and less wasteful than we are today.
Nobody ate meat before very recently. And cheese was not your typical daily treat. Remembers it takes a long time to produce
Humans have been eating meat for at least two and a half million years.
Very recently being thousands of years ago?
Lots of people are not from northern Europe.
*calling meat, cheese, and bread healthy*
wow that food pyramid propaganda really did a number on you all didnt it.
Edit: im talking about the meat and dairy industies lobbying too, not just bread
Well, they sure have necessary nutrients
i love the greatest source of carcinogens in an average diet 🤤🤤
Everything is a fucking carcinogen, get over it and eat an actually balanced diet with exercise
nah meat and dairy is kinda gross
I’m fat by nature (and environment) so I have examined and tried many diets, and I think I can only say for sure a few thing about healthiness of diets:
- if you eat carbs, fats beyond what is necessary to eat, are unhealthy
- If you don’t eat carbs you need to eat fats, some fats are better than others
- If you don’t eat carbs and you don’t eat fats you starve - to thin then to death
- Sugar is unhealthy and wrecks your teeth
- Highly processed foods are not healthy
So it’s as easy as eating a balanced diet?
Becoming less fat? It’s hard.
I cannot do it eating a low fat diet. I find portion control impossible, I get very hungry when I eat carbs
The only success I have had has been on very low carb diets, but they are hard to stick to long term. I found the only one I can do easily is “zero carb”
Ed. It’s unbalanced - choose either:
- Carbs, protein & minimal high quality fats; or
- Fats, protein & minimal to zero carbs
If you eat balanced fat, carbs, protein then you will not be healthy
If it fits your macros bro
Indeed, though it’s hard to get fatter on fat in absence of carbs or dairy
What about protein? There’s a whole other macro you can use to make up for calories with if you cut out carbs. Eating near exclusively protein probably isn’t good for you, but you won’t starve. From what I’ve seen there can even be a lot of advantages to eating a little more protein, especially if you’re doing some strength training.
Protein is vital and is available on any kind of diet. Many vegetables, all meats, all fungi
Humans can either live on carbs or live on fats, in both cases we must also eat protein
Humans cannot (though cats can) live on protein, look up rabbit starvation. You will starve if you eat only protein, where eating only fat or only glucose will kill you much more slowly with vitamin deficiencies
On the sugar note: Meat you buy in the store (for instance bacon) often have sugar additives. Better to visit the butcher.
Butchers won’t save you from sugar in bacon, many bacon brine recipes call for sugar, but a butcher will be able to tell you what the bacon was pickled in
Raw, unprocessed meat (steak, chops, chicken) is generally fine
Ah didn’t know that, thank you. I’ve just started to read the ingredients list on most of the products I buy from the store and realised I can’t even buy ham or many other kinds of meat, because of the sugar additives that they syringe into it.
additives that they syringe into it.
It’s usually only water they syringe into meat - so they can sell a 1.5kg leg of lamb as a 1.7kg ;) but only if your food supply is really badly regulated
The sugar in bacon is from the brine it is soaked in; in ham it’s from the glaze it was coated in before it was sliced - the sugar on sliced ham is all in the edge
Salami might have sugar to promote fermentation
Glazed sliced ham? No I’m talking a bout a big piece of meat without glace. I’m not in the states though so might be different there.
Sliced ham is cut from the big piece. And you’re right, aside from Christmas, ham isn’t usually glazed. I guess there’s sugar in the pot when the ham is cooked, so I think my advice is right - the sugar will not have penetrated far
I guess I haven’t thought much about sugar in smallgoods, as it was within the 20g allowance on keto (even with a bowl of salad) and now I’m on “zero carb” I don’t bother with ham because it doesn’t have enough fat
I’m also not in the states, g’day from Australia
It’s really not the burger that’s unhealthy, but the fries and soda you get with them
The burgers are unhealthy too. With all the dressing, roasted onion, fatty cheese, oil, salt…
Replace meat with bean burger
Replace cheese with guacamole or other sauce
Replace white bread with whole grain bread
Never replace the cheese. never. I’ll happily let veins get clogged up in 10 years for cheese, cheese is well worth dying a few years sooner
Have you seen old people? Eating cheese to eliminate the last decade of “living” basically as a zombie that shits itself sounds like a win not a loss.
Silly westerners and your cheeses…
~(Proceeds to put mozzarella cheese all over his otherwise authentic Korean ddokbokki)~
Especially if the alternative is guacamole.
Replace good taste with veggievomit
You clearly need to learn how to cook.
Replace me from that entire scenario because I ain’t eating that shit when I wanted a burger.
Fr. Vegans out in force here. Which is fine. No issue with vegans. But I have an issue with how much elitism and smugness is coming from this comment section.
The topic is a shit post about how easy it is to make healthy food unhealthy through bad eating habits, poor balance in ingredients, and through misrepresentation of food’s nutritional value. All the condescending “JuSt EaT pLaNt” is not asked for and obnoxious.
I always thought it was the proportions that weren’t healty. You get 50% bread, 50% meat, with a tiny slice of lettuce in the middle.
White bread, cheese (at least not the one on burgers) and red meat aren’t exactly known as healthy foods. Definitely not in the proportions of a burger. Even more definitely not when you boil the meat in oil (often together with the onions).
Look my internal butter system carries oxygen to my cells that’s why the doctor says I have IBS
She also is showing lean meat not 20% burger meat, it’s just dumb.
Step one is to ask yourself what you think healthy means. Generally it’s used as a catch-all by people to justify whatever shitty diet they have.
I think it’s because of the quality of the ingredients. If you make a burger with homegrown vegetables and high-quality meat it would be healthy
Literally nothing is healthy about eating any part of a cow’s flesh. Red meat is, entirely, bad for your health.
Is that really true? Guess it depends on what we define as healthy, but I would assume that eating varid is the way to go.
Yeah eating red meat every day is probably not good, but once a week or less might be ideal?
How could that possibly be true? We are omnivores and have evolved as such. There are many animals that only eat meat lol
It’s the heavy amounts pf processing and adding far too much sugar that does it.
Bin the bread bun and have the burger with a nice fresh salad and decent cheese and you’ll live longer and healthier.
Cheese isn’t healthy. Ground beef neither. I couldn’t think about anything healthy you could use as a burger sauce.
While cheese may not be healthy, it’s not necessarily unhealthy either. It’s got a good amount of protein, iodine, and b vitamins. All of which are very important and usually lacking in other foods (particularly the iodine and b vitamins). Are there options with similar nutrition that are better for you? Absolutely. But I wouldn’t say it’s necessarily bad for you either
From a certain point of view
