• carpelbridgesyndrome@sh.itjust.works
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    I walked past a Tesla showroom recently and they had one car on the floor that they still sell, one that they haven’t sold in decades, a frame to a car that’s out of production, and a robot they still don’t produce. They used to have more cars out then they stopped producing them. The stock is still high somehow.

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      I was fully convinced this was the case but I think they might have actually done it for some reason. There’s no fucking way that you’ll be able to buy a car that does what they did in the demo. I think it’s safe to assume the car that flew doesn’t have a full sized battery and was probably missing some of the other heavier components. It’s really fucking stupid but I think that car actually did all that crap.

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    Here’s the thing everyone seems to be forgetting. Once a motorized vehicle leaves the ground under powered flight it is no longer under DOT’s domain it is now under FAA’s domain. FAA licenses are way harder to get and way easier to lose. They also require annual tests to keep. This is why flying cars are a non starter, because to pilot them you need a general aviation license.

    There are exceptions but it’s always in the ultralight or experimental categories. A release of this car will fit neither of those categories.

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      They also require annual tests to keep

      No they don’t. Good for life, although I do need to do a flight review every 24 months

      Flight reviews are pretty chill, juat do a flight with an instructor (or anyone else certified to sign off on it). We should require these for drivers too on license renewal

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      Yeah this car will never be for sale. There will be the $50,000 version which has none of the compressed air loaded into it, and a tuned up version with some boost for the 0-60. The flying car they showed yesterday was the only one that will ever do that, because it was a literal stunt for the shareholders.

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        Note that even the lowest even described model (50k just to reserve a spot for unspecified price and based on Tesla historically, unknown delivery date) there are issues.

        They claim the active down force fan will be on that, but I hear that even on tracks they frequently aren’t allowed. It’s not likely to be a street legal thing, given what happens with road debris in such a scenario.

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        Correct. There is zero chance they ever come out with a flying car

        New planes are fucking expensive. Hundreds of thousands of dollars. 50% of the cost of those planes is airframe certification and insurance for the manufacturer

        Planes used to be war cheaper, but liability and bureaucracy has slowly been killing GA for a few decades

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        From my memory, it’s just a $50k reservation, and if that’s the case, it’s going to cost a lot more than that in actuality.

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      To be fair, with teslas track record we’d be lucky if a production “flying” car like this could achieve more air time than my Subaru when I go ditch banging 😂

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        You can land on roads. It’s just rare it would be safe and a good idea

        Big tire super cubs do it pretty often in rural Alaska

        Biggest problems landing on roads is power lines and traffic. If either are present, it’s emergency only

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    I bought a used 2023 Hyundai Ioniq 5 for $25k. 30k miles. I know its still not cheap, but the ask the batteries have a 100k+ warranty.

    77kW 220-280 miles at 100% (though I rarely go beyond 90% for battery life). 0-60 in 4.5 seconds, all wheel drive, CCS charger with NACS adapters available. Tesla chargers max at 96kW just fyi, idk why. But a lot of quick chargers work better, there’s 2 65xkW, 4x180kW near me. There’s a 4x375kW and a 4x400kW on a regular distance trip I take. Those are stupid fast charging.

    A standard 120v is 1.4kW max, and it works out to about 10%/11hrs. A 240v is much better (i can’t remember maybe its like 10kW) charges fully in about 8 hours.

    Kia and Hyundai are awesome EVs. I’ve heard good things about Subaru’s. The Chevy Bolt I’ve heard less good about. Toyota’s EVs are disappointing. Avoid Polestar - they aren’t allowed to sell in the US anymore anyway, but the car has a fancy interior and is fun to drive until the AC stops working. And it’s got weird software license gates for hardware it has.

    Also don’t find reasons to funnel money to Musk.

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      I’ve had a polestar for a couple years now, and it’s by far my favorite vehicle. It has quirks, but most I can get past. I also have a kia EV and I fucking hate it. It forces you to get handheld through everything and it has some really dumb software choices. Everything I hate about then could be changed with a software update to give options, but I don’t foresee that happening ever.

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      Subaru and Toyota’s EVs are the same cars with mild restyles, both should be similar mechanically and reliability wise. The Uncharted is definitely the nicest of the bunch in my mind, though.

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      For 240V most people use a dryer outlet which is 30 amps. 30A x 240V = 7.2kW before resistance and conversion losses, etc. Use a 50 amp circuit and outlet and you can achieve 12kW with the same stipulations.

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      240V can vary depending on the amperage and what the individual charger can handle. Power = Voltage x Current. I ran a 60A line, but for continuous loads you can only do 80%, so I get 240V x 48A which is about 11.5kW. There are always losses, so 10ish is a fair guess for real world time expectations.

      As a Bolt EUV owner, I’m very envious of your charge speeds on the road, even though I wouldn’t make much use of it.

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    You see, Europeans cannot have the Cybertruck. Americans cannot have the R5. I can live with that, but then, I am European.

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      They also won’t sell it in Australia

      Europe’s loss really though, euro cars sell well here but since you refuse to sell us the EV versions, China is already taking over and Euro cars are already on the back foot, I don’t think they’ll ever gain the marketshare they had either.

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        I am not Renault. I have no idea why they are not selling it in the US or Australia. It is very well possible that they already have given up Australia against the Chinese. The “Made in Europe” argument certainly has less weight there than in Europe. Like I said, I am not sitting in the strategy meetings of Renault but if I had to guess they are choosing their retreat battles already.

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          I choose to believe you are Renault’s corporate personhood! (obviously you’re not)

          Also you’d be surprised how much weight ‘made in europe’ carries still.

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    No, because poor people won’t pay in advance for a car that is “coming next year” (2021, 2022, 2023, 2024, 2025, 2026, 2027…?)

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    Alas we are doomed. There was the Nissan leaf 15 years ago but they canceled it because no one bought them