• GaryGhost@lemmy.world
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    When I was a child teachers had us watch black and white footage of people fighting each other for loafes of bread, some anti communist propaganda. It was actually scary to watch, I never forgot about it. Now I’m actually scared that could happen here.

    What’s odd is that id allow myself to catch on fire if it meant that the asshole billionaires burned with me. It would be so satisfying if all of their money became toilet paper. All those rich doomsday peppers would be executed by roaming gangs of ex military veterans. That’s my fever dream

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    The US and its O&G and car industries absolutely let China become the main manufacturer of batteries and EVs.

    Like Exxon, the US knew electrification was the future because of climate change, but tried to dismiss it. China seized the opportunity like a true capitalist, while the US government interefered with the free market to hinder electrification. This has been going on for over 20 years now.

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    Invest in academia, get the best new tech.

    This is not surprising - the west has some serious university investment to do if it wants to catch up!

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      It’s funny how they poured money into it during the Cold War, but now it’s all grifter startups and shit funding lol

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    Don’t wanna sound like that guy, but this pretty much due to all the manufacturing capacity we shifted over to China. I mean they certainly got a jump start, yeah? It doesn’t hurt that the whole place is a building machine…wonder where they’d be if we never moved all that manufacturing there to begin with…

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      China has 1 billion more people than the US. And they’re graduating PhDs in STEM at twice the rate.

      Frankly, if you don’t expect them to surpass the US in the coming decades, you’d have to be delusional, the numbers bare it out. A billion more people.

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      Absolutely, outsourcing manufacturing gave China a massive head start. But the West also outsourced decades of expertise, supply chains, and industrial know how while congratulating itself on becoming a service economy. China didn’t just inherit factories: it invested, learned, innovated, and built an industrial ecosystem. We handed them the starting line, not the finish line.

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        It’s worse than most realize. When I went to Guangdong 10 years ago, I expected to meet fabricators and technicians making our products, but I instead met engineers probing our customers and capabilities.

        That company has since been acquired for pennies on the dollar by Google, to the surprise of no one.

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          And the irony is that China has moved far beyond copying Western technology. It’s now a global leader in research output, including fundamental research in materials science, chemistry, and physics. The West outsourced manufacturing, underestimated the transfer of expertise, and somehow assumed China would remain the world’s assembly line forever. That assumption aged spectacularly badly.

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    The US is busy figuring out how to charge a monthly subscription for an AI that summarizes emails. China is making the batteries, solar panels, and drones everyone actually needs. At some point Silicon Valley will announce a breakthrough: a chatbot that explains why manufacturing moved overseas.

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      The US has not only put all their eggs in one basket, they’ve taken out loans against the eggs that those chickens will lay once they’re hatched.

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    The only possible achievable competition goal for US in AI is in building skynet. Boiling the oceans to obtain pure fascist oligarchist supremacy over Americans and pro Israel opinion in the world, far more than military targetting or weapons production supremacy advantages.

    There is zero chance long term of having the power infrastructure to support AI/datacenters in the US, and zero chance of extending AI into manufacturing dominance. China’s manufacturing supply chain, and abundance instead of tariff scarcity, makes it impossible for them to lose their edge to anyone unfriendly to China. Models that are less than 2 months, and closing, behind, and massive south east asia datacenter development that provides 90% of local frontier US model traffic consumed in China, makes US Oligarchism’s national security pretense a farce.

    US is collapsing late stage nazi colonial economy, and geopolitical AI is not even the last bastion to put all eggs in a basket for, it is a direct tool to pillage the US/colonies for oligarchy during accelerated collapse.

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    That is actually good news. World shouldn’t be 100% dependent on US technology. I want alternative. So go China, go Japan, go EU, go Canada.