Remember how Elon was very keen on limiting Starlink for Ukraine.
That makes a lot more sense now doesn’t it.
However, Joe Lonsdale, the founder of 8VC, did comment, considering it a response to an attack by left-wing media for “supporting Trump.” Lonsdale was referring to an article published by Forbes magazine describing his fund’s connections with the sons of Russian oligarchs.
Forbes is “left-wing media” now?
Everything is left-wing media when you are a conservative troll. Just ask the Media Bias bot that will inevitably spew its propaganda at the bottom of this thread.
You can just block the bot. I have… it’s nice and quiet
That doesn’t help prevent the spread of misinformation and propaganda though.
This is an honest question because I see the media bias bot being consistently downvoted and don’t understand why. Can you fill me in? Why is the media bias bot hated so much? It seems fairly reasonable in its assessments. For example:
- Daily Vox: Left with High factuality
- Huffington Post: Left with Mixed factuality
- MSNBC: Left with Mixed factuality
- NPR: Left-Center with High factuality
- Reuters: Least Biased with Very High factuality
- Forbes: Right-Center with Mostly Factual factuality
- Fox: Extreme-Right with Mixed factuality
- OAN: Extreme-Right with Low factuality
- Newsmax: Extreme-Right with Low factuality
- Infowars: Extreme-Right with Very Low factuality
- Conspiracy Level: Tin Foil Hat
- Pseudo-Sci Level: Strong
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I take it that you would argue that the media bias bot is worse than nothing?
I’m not arguing in favor of the media bias bot in particular here. I’m just kind of thinking about what might be a better solution. Given the fractured media landscape at the moment, it seems unreasonable to expect everyone to immediately have know the various biases of each news source. Having tools that help with that, even if they are themselves biased, seems like a good starting point for understanding the bias of different news organizations. Is there a better way to develop a similar tool that provides more useful information?
Just my 2c while taking a shit, I think if the bot just printed the direct name of the news source (“Sky News Australia”, “CNN”, " The Guardian") and additionally said “This is the automatically detected source of this news. Please consider replying to this comment with a better source if you think one exists”
It makes it clear there’s zero bias and encourages conversation with other users here. It also is a reminder in case you might be skimming past and miss the domain it’s from, and you personally can judge “Oh, that’s what I think is a reputable source”, “Oh, it’s those wankers, this is garbage” or “I haven’t heard of that source before, I’ll be skeptical” as some examples
Associated Press: Left-Center
I think it might be at least better if its definition of “center” didn’t seem so narrow and arbitrary.
I think for a while it labeled CSPAN as “Left-Center”.
The responses the admin who added the bot gave to people’s concerns when they announced it, weren’t that great. (Link)
The Lemmy.world admin disregarded all criticism and just said people shouldn’t complain, after just asking for feedback in the post itself
Example:
What a terrible idea.
MBFC is already incredibly biased.
It should be rejected not promoted.
Admin response:
Ok then tell me an alternative we can use in the scale for free.
None? Then pls dont just complain complain complain… And dont suggest improvements.
(Yes, I just took my old comment)
NPR, WAPO, NYT, BBC, and other papers that strive for objective reporting are all listed as leftist.
Even the terms, “left center” and “right center” are loaded. Go read an academic paper that includes polling. You’re going to see terms like “non-aligned”, “leans left”, and “leans right”. Because even the terms we use to discuss bias can induce bias.
There is a substantially pro conservative bias here when objective reporting is placed on the same level as a GOP controlled campaign website such as American Action Network.
Overall, we rate the American Action Network (AAN) as Right-Center biased based on political positions and advocacy that favor the right.
At best this is incompetent. At worst this is a long running misinformation op meant to wash right wing propaganda and make it look equal to reporting from The Guardian.
Speaking of which, they have a “mixed” credibility rating based on 5 failed fact checks from years ago. Which is the same rating Breitbart has with double the number of failed fact checks.
In the “long running misinformation op” category of evidence we have several libertarian websites marked as “right center” and “mixed” credibility. As a refresher for those of us who haven’t taken a political ideology class, these are the guys who coined the phrase, “drown it in a bath tub” when referencing government. They are the guys running around arguing that your employer’s corporation has more 1st and 2nd amendment rights than you do.
So yeah my money is on the guy who runs this thing being a libertarian trying to wash their ideology to look mainstream. Because when you think, the Ayn Rand Institute, and BBC, NYT, WAPO, NPR , and The Guardian all have the same level of bias, you’ve got some problems.
Not all surprising, he’s been pushing the russian narrative for a while now.
Uh oh. Looks like ya boi’s on the steroid.
