• dhork@lemmy.world
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    3 days ago

    It would be ironic if Trump does to the Vatican what he did to Venezuela, even after the US Catholic Bishops’ drive toward outlawing Abortion might have been the decisive factor giving Trump enough support to win both elections.

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      From what I’ve seen, there seems to be a difference in priorities between Catholic leadership in America vs the rest of the world. If the Republicans continue to antagonize the Pope, that would probably work in their favor.

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        You’re not wrong, but that’s not the way Catholicism works. People overplay the “infallibility” angle, but the bishops are supposed to listen to the Pope, that’s the whole point.

        The logical end result of “a difference in priorities between Catholic leadership in America vs the rest of the world.” is either that the US bishops get in line, or we have a new Schism.

        And I think this Pope knows it. The original Pope Leo is literally the Patron Saint of “defending against heresy”. He chose that name for a reason.

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          There’s the middle ground of enough bishops get fired to bring the rest inline.

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          You’re totally right about the fact that they’re supposed to follow the Pope, but they’re also throwing references to the Avignon Papacy.

          It could also very well be a schism where you have the American cardinals declare the Pope is from their own ranks backed by the State while another is in Rome. We’ve already seen a superpower do this with Buddhism.