I never got why conservative got crazy if you specify a pronoun, but at the same time expect you to specify whether its, it’s Mr/Ms/Miss (and often don’t take Dr as an answer), looks like the same question
The pronoun rage is all secondary to targeting trans people. It’s less a matter of ideology and more about unifying their voters around a scapegoat.
They lost their minds back in the 60s/70s when women started using Ms instead of Mrs/Miss. Even into the 1990s, some conservative men were still butthurt about it. Rush Limbaugh was particularly offended over Ms Rodham-Clinton’s title and hyphen.
They lost the battle over women’s titles and the pronoun thing is their new hill to die on.
Don’t want to waste any time talking to a woman who’s already married, need to know that shit upfront.
If only you could like…ask? But I guess that’s the crux of the issue.
Do people you meet introduce themselves to you as Mrs/Ms X? Maybe if you work exclusively in/around schools…
Pretty sure the commenter was ascribing an intentionally dumb line of logic to conservatives.
I was
Welp. Lol and I normally catch those too. The good ones are the ones that usually getcha
This here - this isn’t anything new, people just forgot that they’re living through the same shit over and over again.
Add to that, how DARE a woman choose something, anything!
Because they don’t actually care about pronouns. What they are angry about is transgender and non-binary people being accepted as normal.
Everything else, the pronouns, the bathrooms, the medication, the sports, everything, is just pos-hoc justification for their real belief, which is that transgender and non-binary people should not be accepted as normal.
The cruelty is the point. Everything else is means to their ends.
Conservatives (with a lowercase ‘c’, I’m not talking about Republicans) prefer a series of small incremental changes over a longer period of time while progressives believe in big leaps. Both are valid viewpoints depending on the issue, sometimes we should take things slowly but other times we needed that change yesterday.
Asking titles has been around for a long time so conservatives are ok with it. It also conforms to their existing ideas about gender and roles in society.
Asking for pronouns is a relatively new thing and the whole debate around them is a big and sudden change (at least as far as they see), and it turns everything they believed in on its head.
Of course, there are people who are just plain hateful but I think there’s more nuance to it than that most of the time.
It pretty much boils down to the fact that they are deathly afraid of change of any kind, because they don’t know what to think about anything until some authority figure tells them.
Hey, that’s not fair. They had authority figures tell them to be afraid and hateful, they aren’t waiting on it anymore.
It’s choice. The problem is choice.
Seriously, not channeling the matrix here. You choose your pronouns. So they have to ask because of something you chose. And they don’t think pronouns are actually choosable. They think gender == sex and it’s a simple binary.
They tolerate Miss / Mrs because it’s a simple matter of not knowing. The person either is or isn’t married and you have to ask because you don’t know, not because you want to understand their unique identity.
Small-c conservatives don’t believe in unique identities. They want everyone to know their place. It’s really just another way of looking at the world. Some people prefer freedom with all its flaws. Some people prefer predictability with all its flaws.
And yes, fuck Republicans.
