Or open up job prospect and educational value?

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    I honestly think it’s because in measures of distance, a US American could be considered well-traveled without ever having left the United States. Living in DC and visiting Florida or California is a big trip logistically. I love to travel and have moved a LOT and I have just barely been to every state in the US (some I only drove through, fuck rural Nebraska). While I disagree personally, I think that most Americans just don’t see the immediate utility in learning other languages.

    Not learning Spanish in school as a requirement at this point is just racism, though.

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    You really are asking too much here

    We need to get math, geography, literature, history, writing, personal finance, and driving training working again first

    Want to know what my drivers ed consisted of?

    Not cars, no

    A signature of consent and having me/my class to view unredacted images and video of a girl who some of the people in that room personally knew from that very highschool who didn’t wear a seatbelt screaming with her face having been peeled off having passed through the windshield, and similar gory aftermath images

    Thats the educational bar of competence we’re competing with here at least nearly two decades ago. You think it’s gotten better or worse since then?

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    Limited time and resources means ypu can’t learn everything.

    Is there a lot to improve and should certain subjects be switched for others? Sure. But does learning 4 languages to a very basic degree (which you will likely almost never use and therefore forget) important enough to kick off other subjects? I don’t think so.

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    In America, by far and away the next most commonly spoken language is Spanish. I could see a requirement making it so schools are made to teach Spanish, but I find it hard to see requiring them to teach any other language. Arguably, this might be better managed on the State level, since certain languages may be more common in different states.

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    Setting non-travel jokes aside for aoment because somehow Americans don’t travel but they also get spotted as obvious tourists in their jeans and golf shorts.

    Between prior English imperialism and recent American global market share, just about any place with a decent internet connection will have English as a viable communication language. It won’t always be great and you may have to talk to a few different people to find one that speaks enough English. The places I’ve been often have ads in English. Often enough, they’re not even dual language ads.

    Now combine that with American exceptionalism and you’ll see Americans don’t see a need to learn anything else. No, they don’t see the irony in demanding the language of England as their one and only language heard in the 'States.

    But, in a less cynical take, that country is huge and geographically diverse. There are many Americans that travel. Americans that travel domestically (or even only Can/US/Mex) should not be shamed. Language aside, different regions can have as much diversity as denser countries. Think about your stereotype for a resident of California, then New York, and lastly Texas. That is, after all, because the US is actually 50 states in a trench coat.

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    I hope you don’t mind a non-US-American comment on this one. I see this kind of statement/question quite often and I have a few things to say about it:

    1. It is not common to learn 3-4 foreign languages at school

    It’s not rare to find people who speak more than 3 languages around the world. However in most countries schools just cover the languages you are expected to know in your country/region and the most common lingua franca(e). You guys simply need less languages in your daily business. If anything, there should be a bigger emphasis on Spanish in your education, at least in some states.

    1. School education isn’t enough to properly learn even one language

    The truly foreign languages we learn at school do not stick with most of us. On the one hand, we had to pick a language that we may have not been interested in. On the other hand, you need to spend much more time beyond and after school to get beyond the basics for real life communication - even if the common reference level says otherwise. Even English or the respective lingua franca for the given region is mostly learned from real day-to-day communication. The school lessons serve more or less as a frame.

    1. An overlooked advantage of learning a foreign language is to understand how little we understand

    Sure, learning a foreign language is naturally useful for traveling, job prospects and educational value. But when you rewire/extend your brain a language beyond some basics for traveling, you have a bigger understanding how different languages can be, how much gets lost in translation and how little you understand of the world.

    I’m not sure, if Spanish in the USA can be as important as e.g. English in many European countries (as an outsider I get the impression that it should be even more important :D), but I think treating it that way would be a much bigger benefit for the entire USA. Oh and 4) most bilingual Europeans who are yapping about dumb Americans on the internet have no idea how ignorant they are themselves. Greetings from an immigrant child from Germany! <3

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    The general idea of school is to learn how to learn. Most of the core subjects are just the tip of their iceberg.
    Take the older software devs who didn’t have computers in school when they went. They technically use almost nothing they actually studied in school. So you don’t really want to requie an overload on any given subject. Schools are even dialing back the math requirements. Like pre-calc. Not everyone needs that. The required algebra is more about problem solving than equations now. Which is good. Let the kids follow thier interests a little more.

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    Yeah, sure would be useful. But you only have so many years to teach the kids everything.

    What do you prioritize down in favour of another language?

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    I can see the argument of more focus on a second language, but more languages usually means not enough for any of them.

    My high school required 3 years of a language: I took 5 Spanish courses but was clearly never fluent.

    In my kids high school, it was the first class in an immersion program program from early elementary through high school. Many of them were fluent. That should be a goal.