Why YSK GrapheneOS is a step above the rest. I understand it’s ironic de-google phone/tablet with google hardware, but it just works better then anything else. Permission toggles, pin scrambling, auto-reboot, scopes, MAC randomization, isolated user profiles, longer passwords, sandboxed apps, open source firmware, no bloat & the battery life is incredible now.

I hope people understand how easy it is to move to Linux & GrapheneOS full time & remove Apple, Google, Microsoft etc. It exceeded expectations so much so that I want to share it with other people. I cannot recommend this enough to improve your life. #FOSS

  • cley_faye@lemmy.world
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    2 years ago

    The main reason I keep a “real” smartphone around is for banking app, that requires Google Play Protect (or whatever it is called, the thing that supposedly check around if you’re on a rooted phone). Support for this doesn’t seem there yet, which defeat the purpose.

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          2 years ago

          very insecure. especially if your 2fa method is on your phone as well (unfortunately many banks enforce this)

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            2 years ago

            Sounds like scare mongering.

            Why would that be any different than a PC with the 2FA app on the PC?

            Banking on suitably patched and secured phone is NOT an inherently risky activity.

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              2 years ago

              banks have old ahh security. not many support proper 2fa. but if u log in on your phone, and u do have your phone as the 2fa method, it makes no difference having 2fa. if someone gets your phone they get your banking log in and your 2fa method. its like putting totp 2fa on a computer to sign into something on the same computer. different devices for different purposes. remeber banking apps are always proprietry, so any zero day could be active right now, and we would not be the wiser. i suppose banking on a webpage on your phone is better, if you delete the cookie after.

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            2 years ago

            I said “average PC,” and you throw out Linux with a hardened browser. That’s not average. But how many people have Linux with a hardened browser? More importantly, how easy is that to set up compared to setting up GOS (I promise GOS is much, much easier to set up and use)?

            But if we’re going with extremes like this: no one should use banks on Linux with hardened browsers. Just go in person.

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              2 years ago

              installing a just-works distro (say linux mint) is just/almost as easy as grapheneos. assuming not doing dual booting (the phone is dual booting is it).

              librewolf (hardened fork of firefox) is like 2 commands on linux, or an installer wizard on windows.

              unironically the last statement is based. less technology is always more secure. we managed without it back in the day didnt we.

              im not going to say privacy and digital security is easy or one-size-fits-all or anything, we each have to make comprimises on convenience.