At a glance, the passwords the LLMs created looked secure, much like those that a password generator might spit out. But that’s exactly where the problems arose: Although the AI-generated passwords appeared to be complex and safe to use for securing online accounts, they were actually quite predictable upon closer inspection.

All three LLMs exhibited clearly identifiable patterns in how they created these passwords. These patterns included repeated character strings, predictable password structure, frequent reuse of similar characters, clear biases toward certain numbers and letters, and even duplicate passwords in some cases. Although the AI-generated passwords looked random, they really weren’t. This could easily create a false sense of security if you were to use these predictable passwords for your online accounts.

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    Why does everything have to be LLM, like why cant things sometimes just be algorithmically generated like my AI-free password manager does?

    I wonder if there’s AI-powered password managers on the market now lol. If so and if customers, I would mirror Zuck’s snide “thuh dumb fucks” setiment when people trusted him

    ZXCVBN algorithm has never failed me. I can generate passwords that would take 1 quadrillion guesses/second hackers over 90 million years (testing 1 quad/sec) on the reg

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      It’s worse than just using a new tool though. By definition LLMs use the statistically most likely option (with minor variation for flavor). People are literally asking a statistics bot what password can I use that is the most likely?

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        I was gonna say that. They gonna give you a recycled pattern

        I mean, like, what is an effective/“good” password if not an unrecycled non-pattern??

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        That’s a good point: it’s not just that LLMs fail to give you an optimal password, it’s that they’re inherently designed to give you a pessimal one.

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      I always say I’m not interested in asking an LLM to add 2 + 2 for me. Of course my managers are always pushing us to use LLMs and coworkers keep suggesting we replace efficient, testable, and consistent processes with AI. If you’re going to use it at least think of scenarios that are hard to code for and it would take you at least 10 min to solve.

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    Why would anyone… Who the fuck is using glorified autocomplete to generate a random unique password?

    Anyone that stupid deserves the breach and any company that integrates that moronic idea deserves the blowback.

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    AI generated password

    … I’m sorry, what just happened? I think I had a mini aneurysm. Let me read that ag…

    In all seriousness, WTAF is wrong with people? What removed Baphomet wannabe came up with that negative IQ idea? SERIOUSLY… WTF IS WRONG WITH PEOPLE. ARGH!

    Here I am giving security training to my coworkers and then I have to read this. This is like me spending a life long sifting through all my garbage to make sure everything is nicely separated for recycling, using the bike to go anywhere, to make sure my carbon footprint is as small as possible and over flies Taylor Swift in her private jet undoing my life’s work in a single fucking trip.

    Seriously this gives me a headache

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    AI generated password? What kind of brain rot idea is that, god damn. Do these people need to ask AI to breathe for them?

    I can also generate a password for them while running 50 toasters and flushing the toilet a bunch if they want.

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    My brother you can literally slam your face on the keyboard to get a password. Why would you ask an llm’ to do it for you?

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    It takes a five line Python script to generate a secure password. But no, let’s waste a gigantic amount of energy to have a slop machine do it very badly.

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    “here’s what to use instead”

    …the same thing we always have been? Keepass or other password managers with randomly generated passwords?

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    Just noticing: there’s 0 evidence in article that anyone is doing this. I just don’t buy that this is happening enough to matter. Interesting as interpretability research at best

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    AI is like going into the kitchen and telling the chef how to cook. A time waster, fear monger tactic by scared middle mangers afraid they will get replaced if they don’t adopt and push it. When dumb dumb yankkkee land is done fucking around they are still gonna need people, they just want to pay you low wages. You are now the bottom bitch. gotta keep these workers in their place by running off of fumes. Reinvent the wheel as a square and beat me silly with it.

    AI is perpetual motion machine on the planet WASP-127b …which is no vacum. You worry about the memes as the crapitalist crush your dreams. A debt you will never pay with a shrinking economy. AI did not take your job… your job doesn’t exist… the epstien class takes a weee in your cornflakes thats why they taste like piss. A magic trick… your fear of accepting slop… It was already slop and your job was already dumb. Circling the drain as the rich play their games. Self reinforcing Exponential feed back loops on a road to no where, on tracks coming to an end. AI is a sloppy dumby drag net that paints with broad strokes… lower the bar cut the coke, the people at the top are stupid jokes. You are bound by thin treads of silk…