• grayman@lemmy.world
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    2 years ago

    That’s a terrible place to put them. They should be in large parking lots and garages where people leave their car for 30+ minutes.

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      2 years ago

      it’s not, what about the handicapped who need assistance? Gas station has those.

      • all the amenities that are at the gas station so you can do stuff during your 15 minute charge,

      this should be done along major roads everywhere

      Though I’d agree simple 230v (since it’s the EU) charging in many places is something that should be a focus too, mainly at workplaces and stuff like that where people spend a lot of time

  • BeautifulMind ♾️@lemmy.world
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    Rented a Tesla this summer for a trip with my family- where I was in Michigan, the nearest superchargers were in the lot at Meijers (a regional supermarket chain), which made sense for Meijers (there’s already a big lot there, already infra, it’s a place you can tie fueling up with getting groceries) but it meant I had to drive half an hour to shop instead of going to the local market.

    My thought is that they should be planting superchargers (or their functional equivalent) in every store or restaurant parking lot because when the only place to get a charge is in the next county over, that’s directing EV drivers there and not local

    Yeah, it’ll cost something to build out infra to support that much power but honestly the US grid needs the upgrades anyhow- and if anything, electricity is relatively cheap compared to buying gas

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    They should concentrate on making EVs financially more plausible for people without an electrified garage. Half of Germany lives in flats, most without an own parking space and will pay much more for charging their EV with much less comfort. And politics seem to completly ignore that.

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      While I agree, it is much easier to bring in charging stations to gas stations where infrastructure is already built out. It seems like a near-term win with the long-term option for flat integration/power connectivity

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        The electric infrastructure is the whole grid. I’d argue apartment complex are better prepared for the increased power use than a gas station and is more convenient a location than gas station.

        What are you going to do while waiting for your car to charge? At least at home you can go… home. Shopping centres are a close second. You can do your shopping while you’re charging. Parking spaces and grid are already there.

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          that’s assuming these things actually work I keep picturing the scenario where you pull up to a gas station in the air pump doesn’t work while you’re trying to inflate your tire

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          Im guessing but I bet it is mostly due to the local infrastructure. It is easier to run electrical and install new chargers at a place of business versus residential. The infrastructure at a business is built to expand unlike parking spaces at an apartment complex. You cannot easily tear up the concrete and install electrical when hundreds of families are sleeping or getting home from work

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            You cannot easily tear up the concrete

            Concrete near houses is wasteful. In NL stones are used instead. Installing a charger is easy. There are loads and loads of chargers. In my city they are at most 50 meters apart from each other.

            I completely disagree with pretty much everything you said based upon how NL does it. It’s easy, it doesn’t take a long time, it doesn’t affect anyone sleeping, etc.

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      I get your point. But to be fair: for landlords where massive subventions in place. This program ended amd was not renewed because of lack of interest.

      But at least for new buildings, a policy to force charging stations at every parking lot would be a good idea

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        That is why it should be solved by our politicians. They cannot always leave the main burden to the poor and the middle class…

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      I mean, if you live in a flat without your own parking space, I’d expect you’re taking public transportation most of the time. If you don’t own a car in the first place, there’s no need to convert you in the first place, at least if you have no reason to need a car.

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    Hopefully they will have it so that the EV charging stations included will be under canopies to protect them from the weather, as I know that that is a big problem with current canopy-less implementations.

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        Indeed it should, though there are many EV charging stations where it isn’t the case, especially in America. Tesla’s Charging locations are like that, they usually don’t have a canopy over the Chargers, which in my opinion doesn’t seem like a great practice because it exposes the machines to the elements and make them unpleasant for users when it’s raining or snowing.

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    Okay, but who is building the vast energy grid infrastructure required to move the gargantuan amounts of electricity that will be required once all vehicles make the switch?

    I’m all for it, but I don’t hear anybody talking about the huge national grid upgrades that will be required, or who’s going to pay for it all, or how many years it’ll take to get done.

    Everyone seems to talk about building more chargers, but not going any further than that.

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    Why are they pushing the costs onto gas stations and not paying for it themselves?

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      That article is too shit to extract any “real” information from, but gas stations are a very logical place to install electric “gas stations”.

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        they can reap the profits

        Clearly not, given it’s having to be mandated. Again, why are they pushing the costs onto gas stations and not paying for it themselves?

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          Newsflash: not everybody does absolutely every single possible thing that could possibly be profitable in any imaginable way