“Whether you like it, or not, history is on our side. We will bury you,” he said quoting former USSR leader Nikita Khrushchev.
Russian politician Dmitry Medvedev said on Tuesday Russia could have a right to go to war with NATO.
I wonder… does medvedev have enough wits left to understand that if Russia has that right… then everyone … has that right?
They’re finding Ukraine difficult enough. Sure we’re sharing some toys (a lot of toys)… but they don’t have carriers or attack subs or missile destroyers…
Threatening nato is not a sane decision to make. We might just take them at their word.
The toys we’re sharing are our older toys from the 80s and 90s even. Its not even the more deadly stuff we have…and they’re fighting against a force that’s getting a few weeks training on these toys and sent out into the field. If russia truly wants a 72 hour war…all it would need to do is attack NATO.
Yeah, Ukraine is excited about maybe getting some F-16s and how much that could help with the air war and meanwhile a couple of F-22s could take down a whole squadron of them.
A squadron of f-22s could take down most air forces.
An air wing could probably beat all other air forces combined, with the possible exception of china, though damn they would need to figure out how to keep reloaded.
The USAF is the strongest air force in the world.
The second strongest is the US navy Air wing.
Think the marines are 4.
Edit: this is an old listing, and russia was #3, so I think we actually have the trifecta.
Yea I feel like all the charts with russia on them need to be redrawn… it’s clearly noticable at this point they’ve been a paper military.
At one point I believe the Navy had more aircraft total than the AF, but they had them beat in specialization. AF does the heavy lift jobs, stealth, and up until recently, space launches and satellites. I think Navy and Marine F-18’s fly more sorties though.
Is the F-22 that much more capable?
What about the F-35? Did its issues ever get resolved?
Is the F-22 that much more capable?
Yes, it is.
The most successful jet fighter of the modern era is the F15 with a combat record of 104-0.
In combat against F15s, the F22 is 41-1.
Yes. And yes. Article on the F-35.
72? Pretty generous. I’m pretty sure we have more HARM missiles than they do S400 SAM batteries.
It’s not the war, it’s the keeping.
In any case, we’d probably bog down around the same time China and everyone else on that side got involved. I don’t think it would be as clean or as quick. But, yeah. We could definitely screw them pretty harshly without ever landing troops
China and Russia have no military alliance, Xi is just taking advantage of the fantastic business opportunity that opened up for him for cheap Russian imports. If Chinese troops became militarily involved in Russian territory, it would probably be to acquire their claims over eastern Siberia, dating back to the Qing Dynasty. Otherwise he’s just be supporting a state that competes with him for the dominant regional position.
The Tsar took that land from them, back in the day though. If you look at their current claimed territories, they never forgot. Maybe if Russia agreed to become a subject state of China, then they’d help militarily, but they’re certainly not friends or allies.
Russia does have actual allies, but not many. And China isn’t one of them.
So what you’re saying is we could Jalta Russia at the Urals with the Chinese and set up Cold War 2 on a really big scale?
We don’t need to occupy Russia to stop them from continuing a war that they start. We can just destroy their equipment and manufacturing locations so their armed forces surrender.
I was just gonna say, destroy the vodka and cigarettes.
That falls under equipment!
There isn’t anyone really on that side . China and NATO have differences, but China doesn’t have anything to gain from helping Russia, and nthey lose a lot is NATO loses. They will sit out. Similar with India, they will stay out . Iran or a few other small counties might consider joining, but I doubt it as most are smart enough to know that is suicide.
Idk, China might see the spread of resources as a good opportunity to try an invasion of Taiwan.
Maybe, Xi seems just sane enough not to try, but who knows. China and Russia can’t really win against NATO though they make things harder. India likely hates China enough to join NATO as well.
Of course we are talking nuclear armed countries so everyone loses is possible.
Putin made his move because Xi sounded like he was going to go at the same time.
Xi was closing on HK and planned to switch immediately to Taiwan, even started the domestic pivot, then his navy told him they needed at least 5 years (honestly its more like 15, they are just starting carrier flight ops on the Liaoning and their newer ones aren’t shaken down yet).
Putin had made his preparations, Xi hinted he might go anyway once the west was distracted.
If daddy z hadn’t stayed in kyiv history would look really bad right now.
There’s also the option that it’s going to be a 30-ish minute war. 50-ish if the other side manages to get their counter value force airborne.
Or the big guns. If they start attacking the nuclear powers, things are going to get very spicy very quickly.
Good news then: If you go to war with one NATO member you get war with the rest of them absolutely free!
For 4 Easy payments of 19.95 you too can get your shit pushed in by 31 different countries, with the added bonus of having someone else raise your children.
They have the right to, but not the capability
And we’ve seen what third tier NATO gear did to Russia. Wait until they see the second string stuff.
not to mention russia spent the whole time complaining about NATO helping ukraine
Can’t even take on Ukraine, you want to come at every other western country? Lol
Russia is the irritating kid down the street who just broke his nerf gun so he’s threatening to throw the darts at you instead and tell his mom you’re not invited to his birthday party…
War has fuck-all to do with rights. If you’re going to attack a NATO country we will beat your ass back into the stone age without mercy, your nukes won’t save you if you dare cross that line.
No but they’ll sure kill a lot of us, whichever ones still fire and hit their marks at least. Who’s to say if they’ve maintained their stock over the decades.
And the citizens will be told the whole time about how it’s some plot to destroy them as people, to stoke the flames.
An actual war with Russia wouldn’t end well for anyone short of having an internal coup with an actual plan for government afterwards instead of this slow handoff of power from one authoritarian dictator to the next.
an actual war with russia wont end well for russia, thats about it. even russia isnt dumb enough to try nuclear war
Don’t confuse the requirement of lack of intelligence with the willingness of a person willing to drag the world to hell as they’re being taken down.
But do they have the ability to war? 🤔
So has Denmark.
Though it would be funny ig Russia didn’t. Imagine Putin declaring war on Poland and Poland just saying “no, it’s against the law.”
Poland is chomping at the bit to kick Russian teeth in right now, the first legit opportunity that comes up they’re taking it
It will be the special special operation.
Special Operation 2: Electric Nazi-loo
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Michael Madsen is awesome as Mr Blonde. Such a fucking psycho.
Whether you like it, or not, history is on our side.
I think they’re trying to provoke a war so NATO will overhaul Russia’s economy and infrastructure à la the Marshall plan.
i doubt they want to take it that far, but i’ve got to assume at least some of putin’s cronies are thinking if they goad him into something stupid enough, they can get rid of him and take over for themselves.
There isn’t going to be much left to take over if they don’t hurry it up.
That’s a ‘The Mouse That Roared’ strategy.
It also saves face since Russia would be BTFO by 20 countries instead by only Ukraine.
A house cat has the right to attack a lion as well…
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These dumbfucks can’t manage a war with Ukraine. To state the obvious.
They’re managing the war just fine.
Are you enjoying your Lada?
No Ladas in the UK, only Jags, me very sad…
History’s on their side? Boy do I have news for him…
To be fair, a lot of their guns are multiple decades old.
You jest now but that’s only because you’re not staring down the barrel of a T64 that’s run out of gas because the crew sold their reserves on the black market for vodka.
Well, recent history involves a lot of wars kicking Russians ass. Afghanistan, Chechnya, Ukraine…
I mean… he’s not wrong? They could have a war with NATO any time they wanted it. Russia could have war with NATO whenever they want it. They’ve been very careful to not actually DO that, of course. Last thing they need is to start losing another one with someone who won’t have any difficulty in bringing the full conflict right to them.
Well, yeah. Everyone has the right to make bad decisions
And everyone has the right to shoot back. Not sure why such a declaration comes across as so one sided.
How are they gonna have time to bury anybody when they’re busy burying hundreds of thousands of citizens they force to go to war for them?
