The Muslim call to prayer will ring out more freely in New York City under guidelines announced Tuesday by Mayor Eric Adams, which he said should foster a spirit of inclusivity.
Under the new rules, Adams said, mosques will not need a special permit to publicly broadcast the Islamic call to prayer, or adhan, on Fridays and at sundown during the holy month of Ramadan. Friday is the traditional Islamic holy day, and Muslims break their fast at sunset during Ramadan.
The police department’s community affairs bureau will work with mosques to communicate the new guidelines and ensure that devices used to broadcast the adhan are set to appropriate decibel levels, Adams said. Houses of worship can broadcast up to 10 decibels over the ambient sound level, the mayor’s office said.
I find the call to prayer more offensive than inclusive
Having lived in Bedstuy where a loud Muslim prayer happens every Friday morning, it’s annoying as fuck and should not be exempted from ordinary noise ordinances.
I lived right next to a Mosque in Kensington (that opened up without a proper permit in a residential zone a year after I purchased my property). They used to broadcast their prayers at ungodly volume. It was loud as hell, would cut through my headphones and ruin any ability I had to do anything, even think straight. I made numerous noise complaints but nothing was ever done by the NYPD. Got so bad that I finally sold the place and moved somewhere dominated by orthodox Jewry just because I knew they’d serve as a bulwark against me ever having to hear any prayers again.
I’m sure that the people who think this is a good idea view it as a simple matter of religious freedom. It is not. My experience was one of having someone else’s religion thrust upon me. Church bells are annoying and loud, but they do not contain actual religiosity. I was always taught that my rights ended when I infringe upon someone else’s rights. Broadcasting prayers so loud it can be heard above the ambient noise in NYC is trampling on my rights to exist free of religion.
Believe whatever you want, but keep it to yourself. I feel awful for everyone who lives near a mosque in NYC.
Have you not heard the shabbat siren in Brooklyn ran by orthodox Jews and also run every Friday? They are literal air raid sirens in Williamsburg. https://www.jta.org/jewniverse/2014/brooklyns-weekly-shabbos-air-raid-siren
Yeah, these are annoying as fuck and should not be exempt from noise ordinances. This isn’t 1900, they all have phones they can get a notification if they really don’t know what day it is.
Every Friday isn’t that bad, here in Indonesia especially around Java it will be played every evening, some even plays it 5 times a day…
Religions shouldn’t get special privileges.
Houses of worship can broadcast up to 10 decibels over the ambient sound level
10db may not sound like much but a sound 10db louder sounds twice as loud to the human ear.
The ambient sound level… OF FUCKING NEW YORK
Damn logarithms!
That doesn’t put it in perspective at all. Both of those things are very loud. Ambient noise in NYC is kind of medium to low, depending on time of day and exact location. What does 10 dB above the ambient noise at 4:30 AM sound like? The double of breathing is leaves rustling.
This is some backward ass bullshit. Keep your religious garbage to yourself. Complain about Christians forcing school prayers then have this dumb shit.
Religion: Get away without paying taxes, receive special privileges, and influence government policy!
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what if you live next door? Kinda like your neighbor’s dog barking or mowing grass if you work nights
I lived about 3 miles from a church in a mid-sized town in the midwest. On Sundays they’d play music on some gigantic jangly bell thing I could hear loudly at my house… again, 3 miles away. I can’t imagine the noise complaints a regular person would get for playing something that loud, but they’re a church so apparently it’s fine.
This happens surprisingly often. There is a church on my block that I can’t hear unless I go right up to the building on Sundays and I know that they do get into because during Covid they moved outside with the singing.
Well, they managed to put the foot in the door (you’re fucked) just you wait what other special treatments religious folk will require …
I still think this issue can be solved with an app. In fact I am willing to help work on it as long as they promise to put it to bed.
You get a little cry to prayer on your personal device based on your location.
Bothering other people is the point, making their religion an expected part of the landscape.
And then Americans call Europe a New Mogadishu, lol.
So see if the city has like a max db for speakers, get a device to measure the decibels and complain on that front. Let them know you are not arguing about the prayer ( sucks but I think that battle is lost for now) but the noise level is disruptive
see if the city has like a max db for speakers
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Houses of worship can broadcast up to 10 decibels over the ambient sound level, the mayor’s office said.
Did you miss that part?
I actual did miss that, but the purpose of doing what I said would be making sure they did not exceed the decibel limit
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Good. Muslims deserve it.
Why?
This is not an attack on Islam.
Why does one group have the right to blast (a sound 10db louder sounds twice as loud to the human ear.) the neighbourhood with noise?
How does their right to broadcast trump the right of others to have some peace and quiet?
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