San Francisco’s police union says a city bakery chain has a “bigoted” policy of not serving uniformed cops.

The San Francisco Police Officers Assn. wrote in a social media post last week that Reem’s California “will not serve anyone armed and in uniform” and that includes “members of the U.S. Military.” The union is demanding that the chain “own” its policy.

Reem’s says, however, its policy isn’t against serving armed police officers. It’s against allowing guns inside its businesses.

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    It could be worse. This shop could react like police officers when someone enters a police station with a weapon.

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    Correct me if I am wrong but didn’t the same people having a whinge over this make the point about how businesses have the right to choose who they serve? I believe this was a few years ago when a different bakery refused to serve gay people.

    So it wasn’t about the rights of business to be run without government interference afterall.

    Well there is a shocker.

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      Wonder if we can use this to infer something about the thin blue line, back the blue folks…

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        I’m sure there is a message in there somewhere. I wouldn’t know because I’m just a dumb Libtard. But I’m sure those conservative geniuses out there could figure it out.

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    It’s wholly within their rights to refuse service to anyone for any reason. I hope they stick to their… well, I guess “stick to their guns” doesn’t really work here but whatever.

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      If they are a public facing business, they are not within their rights to refuse service to anyone for any reason. There are protected classes, like age/race/sexuality. So if you own a business like a coffee shop, you can’t say “no black people.” However, police and guns are not protected classes, so I think they should be in the clear legally.

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        Unfortunately that isn’t true. Businesses have a right to refuse service for a wide variety of reasons. Like you said though those protected classes are illegal to discriminate against.

        That is why you can have rules, like “no shirt no shoes no service”. So in this case it is if you bring a gun you will be asked to leave.

        Although now if that store was ever a victim of a robbery I would bet the response time is very slow…

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          It’s not like police departments give a shit about robbery anyway. They take a report and tell you to call insurance. Better off with a guy with a gun.

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          Fun fact, if they can prove the police deliberately delayed their response that’s a massive lawsuit.

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            You still gotta convince the city and then who are you really hurting? If the cops had to pay lawsuits out of the FOP pension fund maybe that would matter. If you sue the city you’re only hurting your neighbors and yourself.

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              Payments for those things shouldn’t come out of public funds, cops should individually be required to carry malpractice insurance. Cop gets found guilty of violating someones rights? Settlement gets paid by their insurance. I bet you’d see all those “bad apples” suddenly being utterly unemployable once they literally can’t find anyone willing to insure their scumbag asses.

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        Also the distinction is “no uniforms, no guns” off duty police are still served. It’s actually a little closer to “no shoes, no shirt, no service”.

        As listed in the article some of the employees and regular customers come from war-torn places or have histories of traumatic interactions with police. Hence the ban comes from a place of limiting PTSD reactions.

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    For some more context this place, reems, really isn’t a bakery so much as a middle eastern take out place. The main store is currently closed down though so the only place they have open is a counter serve food court style place in the ferry building, so the cops didn’t get kicked out of the place, they either went to the counter and the cashier refused to serve, or more likely, they saw the new policy online and threw a hissy fit without actually going.

    The founder is a Palestinian leftist, so this probably was targeted towards cops/military.

    I’d highly recommend going here if your on a tourist trip and end up in the ferry building, not just for the cop hate, but there wraps are great as well.

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    Even if it were a policy against serving cops, didn’t the Supreme Court literally just rule that a business can deny any group?

    If you can refuse to serve gay people, you can refuse to serve cops. This shit goes both ways.

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      True, but court would claim the previous ruling was focused on contracted custom services and freedom of speech.

      It would be pretty easy for them to craft an argument in favor of letting the cops in, as hypocritical as it may be.

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        this is what being conservative is all about. There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.

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        So then the Masterpiece Cake Shop ruling, maybe.

        That one might apply better. Same outcome.

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    if you’re going to have policies that discriminate against one group of people, then own it, post it publicly,

    …McCray said somehow without even a hint of irony.

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    “will not serve anyone armed and in uniform”

    Should this be an “or” statement? Showing up naked with a gun would pass this logic.

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      [Weird, sarcastic joke] Uniform? But what about the fire department?! Oh wait, they don’t carry guns for some reason. Woah, does that mean they don’t just show up and gun people down? That’s a neat idea, I like that. Maybe more uniformed services should be like that.

      [Song reference] But still, fuck the fire department. Dropping by unannounced just to fry your apartment…