William Hardison Sr. was killed during the shooting situation.

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    “An LLC took the house over and purchased it for $25,000 in March 2023.”

    Scummy businesses doing crap like this need to stop.

    It’s not a justification for what he did, but it is a reason why he did it.

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      The reason this happened is he stopped paying his taxes. Let’s not confuse the cause and effect here. When he was confronted with the consequences of his actions, he chose to use violence.

      Now we can have a discussion about whether “tax is theft,” but that’s immaterial to the fact that we do live in a society which charges taxes. One doesn’t have the option to just opt out when they feel like it.

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        Noone should lose their primary residence, it should be protected(unless it is a mansion or something). Everyone should have a place to live. In Greece, primary residences used to have a lot of protections, so even if you were in debt, it would be very hard to lose your house. But thankfully, thanks to 15 years of austerity and “reforms” imposed by Troika and right wing governments, now you can easily lose your house, just like in the US.

        What is the point of society, if people dont have a place to live.

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          Noone should lose their primary residence, it should be protected(unless it is a mansion or something)

          Why? I can think of a thousand reasons one should lose their primary residence. Including serious and violent crime (prison), criminal proceeds (gang property), serious damage to a rental or social housing, restraining orders, sex offender registry, refusal to repay a home loan, and refusal to pay taxes. We all have to pay tax so we can pay for social services. If you don’t want to pay for social services you can move to a country which doesn’t support the poor. You can also vote for parties which strip social services. You don’t have the option to just stop paying your taxes.

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            Including serious and violent crime (prison), criminal proceeds (gang property), serious damage to a rental or social housing, restraining orders, sex offender registry, refusal to repay a home loan, and refusal to pay taxes

            Some of these are VERY different than others.

            We all have to pay tax so we can pay for social services

            Is a society that deprives people their primary residence, a society that worth paying taxes? Because let’s be real, 99.9% of the time that someone loses their home, it is because people cant afford to pay the bank. And almost always is because they are unemployed.

            And you are ok with this? I dont understand this “omg, you have to pay the bank no matter what, otherwise it is a moral failure, so you deserve to lose your home”. I wrote a relevant reply here

            https://kbin.social/m/news@lemmy.world/t/375186/Pittsburgh-active-shooter-What-we-know-about-the-suspect-William#entry-comment-1881269

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              You’re attacking the concept of loans. Banks wouldn’t offer loans if they couldn’t claw back their investment for non-payment. If you want to eliminate loans then the people hit hardest will be those without capital.

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        Yes, because we all know the tax laws are the paragon of fairness. What’s better $1,200 from an older person or 1.2 million from a 35 yo financier? The reason you jump to superficial explanations is because you are ignorant.

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          Ignorance is calling another user ignorant for simply acknowledging the consequences of the man’s actions and stating that he did not believe the violence was justified.

          If you want to have your argument taken seriously, maybe you should try not to insult the person you are attempting to persuade…

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    I heard about this earlier: It doesn’t sound like he was an active shooter at all. It sounds like he had his home stolen by a shady corporation and fought the police, dying trying to save his home.

    Dumb to get into a gun fight for sure, but how exactly was this guy an “active shooter”? Am I missing something here?

  • 【J】【u】【s】【t】【Z】@lemmy.world
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    How are there absolute potatoes in this thread defending this dude?

    By this account he was an insane, anti-government nutjob, who fell for something citizen scams.

    Oh, is it because he’s anti government and shot it out with police over a tax lien foreclosure?