• grte@lemmy.ca
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    So over half of Americans aren’t concerned with accelerating authoritarianism? Great.

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    If “nearly half” disprove that means more than half approve.
    That’s fucking disgusting.

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      There’s always a good percentage that are indifferent or “don’t know”. But they’re no help.

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        So basically the same outcome as the election. People haven’t changed.

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          The people that don’t care will continue to not care until it affects them directly. Even with the tariffs it won’t matter until what they’re actually buying gets hit by the price hikes. Even then they may not even be paying enough attention to their finances to notice.

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            And even if they express disapproval they will vote or not vote in the same manner because the other side is worse or both are bad.

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        This is exactly what happens with democratic societies

        No. This is what happens when you have two sides, both too large to really represent anyone, battling for a sliver of majority using increasingly diverging views and then exercising as much power as they can before the roles flip again.

        In an actual democracy representatives of the people, with many differing views, sit down together and decide case by case on a solution that most can be happy with.

        Someone will always disagree with any decision when we live in a large society, but a functioning democracy is the closest thing we have ever come to making sure that as many as possible are happy (and more importantly get a say).

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          Unfortunately exactly this outcome is the inevitable result of a FPTP voting system combined with political parties. The most stable arrangement of such a system is a two party system, and once it reaches that point the winning party becomes the one willing to take the most extreme position from the other party.

          The only way to fix this is to do away with FPTP and replace it with a proportional voting system that will allow for multiple political parties to be viable and encourage the major parties to seek moderate positions rather than extremes.

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            Absolutely agree! First past the post will always drift toward larger and less representative parties. Even proportional representation can have this tendency, but it is much more resilient.

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            Indeed! And they do under representational democracies. In a community there will always be some sort of law or code, whether written or not, that some members of that community disagree with.

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    These are some depressing numbers.

    47% of U.S. adults disapprove of of deploying the Marines to LA, with 34% approval.

    45% disapprove the National Guard deployment, while 38% said they approve.

    … An equal share — 45% — also disapprove of the protests against ICE, per Monday YouGov polling.

    36% said they approve of the protests, and 19% said they are not sure.

    58% of Democrats said they approved of the anti-ICE protests, compared to 15% of Republicans.

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      58% of Democrats said they approved of the anti-ICE protests, compared to 15% of Republicans.

      I wonder how does it compare to previous iterations of large protests.

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    45% disapprove the National Guard deployment, while 38% said they approve.

    So 38% are enemies of Constitution and country.

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    Less than the majority is depressing, but don’t forget how the media is covering this. MAGA eats this shit up, obviously, but even your standard semi-informed people are getting “riots on the street of LA” bullshit on their local news outlets.

    I’m actually a little surprised it’s “almost half” in disapproval, given how badly this is covered. I wonder if TikTok and Bluesky are helping, the latter being obvious but the former being surprisingly good at showing what’s actually happening on the ground-- at least a lot better than Meta and X options.

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    This country continues to depress me. It really should be way higher.

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      It’s going to be interesting to see the reaction on the ones who approve when Trumpflation really gets going because farms can’t hire enough workers to pick their fields and work their cattle and poultry mills.

      Good time to plant a victory garden. You’re gonna need it.

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        Funny you mention it. I am growing a garden this year for the first time ever.

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    Wow, we got ALMOST half of America to understand that it’s bad when presidents send the military to threaten Americans.

    That almost makes me think our inevitable decline as a nation will happen slower than I originally thought.

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      Generally not how polling works, only 34% approved and the remainder is just no response.

      75% of Republican respondents approved of the National Guard deployment, only 68% for the Marines deployment.

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    If a majority of Americans approve then the problem will not go away if Trump goes away.

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    To be honest part of me wants his raids to spread to other cities, especially in middle America, so it hits home to more voters. Especially his wavering voters. Some people can only recognize something if they experience it first hand.