People saying he’ll admit it in this spate are wrong because he’ll end up in prison. This is the only way he’d maybe admit it.
Law is unclear what happens to Trump and GOP certainly won’t impeach. But everyone knows, you pardon an asshat, and take on the title of pardoning daresay the worst criminal in history.
Take the deal, institute a 99% wealth tax on billionaires anyway.
God, I wish the Dems had the balls for that.
They don’t because many know the history of wealth taxes and how frequently they get abandoned because they are ineffective IRL.
Man, if being ineffective stopped Dem policy, we’d have a lot less Dem policy.
Ineffective tax policies have different direct harms than other ineffective policies. Wealth taxes frequently do not bring in enough revenue which is a significant problem.
Hm. I’d be interested in seeing anything backing that up. You’ve just broadly stated that “ineffective” tax policies don’t work well, and I feel that is sorta in the name. Is there any line of reasoning that would make “wealth taxes” ineffective?
I am not the parent commenter, but the argument for and against wealth taxes is a lot more nuanced than many people would originally think.
For one, a great deal of wealth in this country (the overwhelming majority, actually) is not money but takes the form of illiquid capital goods like real property and shares in companies. There is a real concern that people subject to tax just won’t have enough dollars in a bank account to pay for it, and forcing the sale of that many goods could render the markets illiquid as it wipes out the red side of the order book every April.
A potential way around this is if the tax can be paid in kind, similar to how wealth taxes were collected historically, such as in the Roman Empire. This could be stupid easy to administrate—a 1% wealth tax against companies can be enforced by just minting 1% of every registered company’s outstanding shares in new stock and then transferring it to the control of the Government. Though the downside is that this sort of tax is very indiscriminate and difficult to target towards certain demographic groups. While shareholders are largely wealthy individuals who would be the target demographic for a wealth tax, they aren’t exclusively so. Effectively that becomes a tax on holding shares in companies, which is a good, but not perfect, proxy for wealth. The drawback to collecting shares in kind is that the stuff that is raised is not really “revenue” for the state, in that it is not money that can be spent, and to liquidate it would incur significant loss for the state as well. Which is basically throwing wealth away. This wasn’t a problem when “in-kind” meant grain and barley that could be used to feed the army, but soldiers can’t survive on a diet of stock certificates.
I am in favour of large-scale wealth redistribution from the billionaire class to the working class, but doing so isn’t as easy as saying “You, billionaire, give me 1% of everything you got, cash.” I think a policy of combined high income tax, high capital gains tax, and taxing loans for personal expenses secured against shares as income is more likely to be effective.
Wealth taxes frequently do not bring in enough revenue which is a significant problem.
Yeah, they’re too low!
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pinky swear promise the pardon, get the evidence, then don’t actually pardon.
he can bitch and moan about getting played from prison.
Neither Trump nor Musk are going anywhere any time soon. Stop fantasizing about dream scenarios and do what you can locally.
trump is 78 years old and is obese. Neither of those two facts usually makes for longevity. Actuarial tables say he could die of natural causes this afternoon and it would be a completely normal thing.
No because rigging an election normally would take thousands of people working in secret. Trump won because America has a lot of dumb people in it
Trump announced before the election that he was going to cheat. This isn’t rocket science in believing he said the quiet part out loud. He has a lot of smart people working for him with flexible ethics. Not to mention, it’s always projection and they’ve been calling the d’s cheats for years.
If it’s true that he did that, yes.
After he’s federally pardoned, each affected state can prosecute him sequentially.
A rat snitching is the best possible outcome, you always take that deal.
I’d offer that deal and seal it with a trip over the Gulf of America where he’s mysteriously never seen again
Flagrantly breaks community rule #5
Won’t do any good because even if you remove Trump and Vance over a rigged election, we’d just get President Mike Johnson.
We’d have to remove enough congress critters to replace the Speaker with Hakeem Jeffries, THEN pull Trump and Vance.
The “law” has been pretty clear on what happens to Trump, which is not a fucking thing.
though yes i would take this deal, it makes me contemplate voting republican just to see him in jail… but that would just be the revenge talking… i’d probably stick with ms. stein.
