Do I need to worry about upgrading motherboard with GPU if its old or will it work okay just buying a new GPU?

  • Sixty@sh.itjust.works
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    11 days ago

    Yes*

    1: Old motherboard PCI-E generation slot may bottleneck bandwidth, make sure you use the slot closet to the CPU for 16x speeds.

    2: Old CPU might get bogged down by the massive modern video drivers and make the GPU under perform.

    3: Going forward you’ll need to consider ReBar support. The newest Radeon GPU will under perform without ReBar enabled. If you don’t have that feature, it’ll still work, but look up on/off benchmarks.

    4: Make sure your power supply can handle any upgrades.

    • SmokeyDope@lemmy.worldOP
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      11 days ago

      Here’s some more info. This is the motherboard I have it says it’s a ‘generation 3’ but duesnt say what gddr vram it supports. I would like to put in a Intel arc card with gddr6 gram

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        Most people aren’t responding to the specifics of that board, but even though it’s old it’s still PCIe x16 and will work with a lot of modern cards. The cards of it’s era were things like the nvidia 1660 or any of the AMD Radeon 6000x series would be fine. As others have said you’ll need to ensure your PSU is able to provide enough power, and that your cpu might not be able to provide enough data. So anything past that era might be pointless.

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          and that your cpu might not be able to provide enough data.

          That also depends on the settings and resolution you plan on playing with. The higher the visual settings and resolution, the more demand is on the GPU. So when you plan to play on very high visual settings at a high resolution, a higher end GPU might make sense even with an older CPU.

  • snoons@lemmy.ca
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    IMO it really depends on if you can upgrade your CPU as well. I have a 12 year old dell precision that maybe (probably not?) could handle a newer CPU (32gb of ram), but there is no way that I know of to upgrade the CPU to a current generation; thus, it is stuck with a CPU that’s too weak even for a 1070Ti.

    Look here to find upgrades that will let you get the most out of that old motherboard. IDK if it will be much though. I upgraded the CPU on mine in hopes that ~8% gain in performance would do much… it didn’t.

    Here’s a good resource as well. They focus on used systems it seems and helped me find the strongest (yet still shitty) CPU that I could get for my ancient motherboard.

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    Your decade old motherboard may or may not accept a graphics card but your decade old cpu will have a hard time running any modern games. Putting an expensive video card in there would be like buying custom rims for a junk car. If you provide more details like exactly what motherboard cpu you have. What kind of games you wanna play you can get more pointed support

    • SmokeyDope@lemmy.worldOP
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      The CPU in that motherboard is the amd ryzen 5 2600 6 core 12 thread 3.4ghz. The GPU is AMD RX 580 6GB. I would be buying more for computational work on a headless server than games, I’ve never had any issue with modern games because im old and okay living with 1080p + medium settings it all looks fine compared to the PS1 stuff I grew up with.

      Im only really concerned with bumping up VRAM GB and hopefully TFLOP speeds. I would really really like at least 16gb of vram but it doesn’t come cheap in todays market, the intel arc stuff was a good deal compared to what nvidia and amd want for similar numbers. Ill be limited by pcie version 3 no matter what. Theres some older nvidia cards that also fit the bill that I saw thanks to some other user recommendations but maybe if im spending the money just get the newest GPU series and upgrade all the other parts later?

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        If your power supply will power the arc you should be all set for your use case. Should you need more cpu power you can flash to latest bios and see what the newest am4 cpu your mobo will take. Am4 chips are really cheap these days.

      • Sixty@sh.itjust.works
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        10 days ago

        That’s an AM4 slot motherboard then! I’d look up the latest motherboard BIOS update, and then throw in the best used CPU you can too. The 450M chipset can support up to Ryzen 5000 series.

        A 3800X (~100 CAD used) Ryzen or better is still plenty powerful paired with a modern GPU. Zen 2/3 is way better than the first gen for IPC.

        5000 series are still pretty expensive however.

  • PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca
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    Probably it’ll be fine, with a few exceptions.
    But probably it won’t be worth the money unless you’re getting a low end card