Sounds like she shouldn’t have gotten divorced three times if she gave a fuck what Jesus said.
But the prosperity gospel types know they’re scammers, so she’ll laugh all the way to the bank.
How could she accept the role of the head of an office if she thinks women should submit to men?
1 Tim. 2:11-12: “A woman should learn in quietness and full submission. I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man; she must be silent.”
FYI to Lemmy non-Christian’s: Paula White is an incredibly controversial figure in the evangelical community. Specifically, many believe her to be perpetuating fraud by demanding money from her followers in exchange for specific acts of prosperity provided by God (and even to ask God to smite your enemies). This differs from traditional tithing which typically is used for salaries, services (keeping the lights on), and community outreach.
Why evangelicals can’t point to her malfeasance as evidence of Trump’s corruption is a mystery to me. Additionally many conservative Christians don’t believe women should be in a position of authority, citing the same scripture she is here as evidence. If she were morally consistent she’d quit her “ministry” and go home.
Specifically, many believe her to be perpetuating fraud by demanding money from her followers in exchange for specific acts of prosperity provided by God (and even to ask God to smite your enemies).
Sounds like the Prosperity Gospel to me.
If she were morally consistent she’d quit her “ministry” and go home.
This was the first thought I had when I read the headline.
Fraud is a religion
wish I could spit in the face of every fucking idiot who feels the urge to spread Christianity in any way. keep that idiotic bullshit tf from my life, you’re all clowns and actors
Feel free to spit in my face then.
I’d argue that what these people are spreading is about as close to Christianity as Trump’s sharpie hurricane map is to an actual hurricane though; damaging and ignorant by misleading people.
As an example, they say God orders women to submit to their husbands. They get that from a letter Paul of Tarsus wrote to a group of early Christians in response to the way a particular group of (uneducated, likely trophy) wives were behaving that wasn’t in line with Jesus’ teachings to put others before themselves, because they misunderstood the bit about Jesus being an ultimate sacrifice that freed people from Jewish law to mean that you could behave however you wanted, and all would be forgiven. Paul told them that’s not how things work, and to ask their (likely educated in Jewish law) husbands to explain it to them at home instead of disrupting public meetings by preaching junk like this.
Unfortunately, a lot if what the public sees of Christianity in the US is remixes of exactly the same things the Bible these people own directly instructs against.
Jesus was a socialist pacifist. These people attempt to re-make him in their own image, taking instructions from his immediate followers out of context to justify their behavior, totally ignoring actual direct commands like “love your enemies and do good to those who hate you.”
As part of that group, you own ALL their bad behavior, because your group doesn’t do anything to remove that element from the group.
So now that distorted sharpie-version of Christianity IS the actual and real Christianity, even if you don’t like it. You can either accept that being a christian is very similar to being a garbage nazi, or you can start to kick them out.
But they’re yours, and you’re theirs
Yup; upvoted, and doing exactly this.
But that same argument can be applied at all levels. These people are also Americans and humans, with a distorted sharpie-version of both identities.
We all need to own our shared identity with these people while rejecting the false narratives they stand behind.
“Humans” nor “Americans” are a group that espouse moral authority. So of course there’s a HUGE difference, and I’m not sure your point is anything but whataboutism
How do Americans have more moral authority right now than Christians? They’re overlapping groups that as a whole are behaving pretty badly right now. You could apply the same logic here to police officers or many other groups (manyotherism?)
You may have a point with humanity as a whole, as there’s only one way to exit that group and it’s not going to be an effective solution to the world’s current problems.
It’s not “whataboutisn” when someone says “I own that and I’m doing what I can to fix things. This needs to be applied to other groups as well” though. That’s a “yes, and” not a “not this but that” argument.
In this context, the other groups are brought up solely to illustrate the issues, and not to condone the bad behavior festering inside the larger group that self-identifies as Christian.
How do Americans have more moral authority right now than Christians?
Uh, what?
As part of that group, you own ALL their bad behavior
Out of curiosity, have you ever used the phrase “No True Scotsman” when people try to claim someone isn’t really a Christian?
open up for me 🛐
No true Scotsman. All religion is evil by nature of faith over evidence and magical thinking.
No true Scotsman
And above you is someone saying any Christian is responsible for the actions of everyone who claims to be a Christian. So what is a Christian to do?
They’re not allowed to reject someone and the things they are saying because “No True Scotsman”, but they are also held responsible for the things this other person does because they have not expelled them somehow, which is something they aren’t allowed to do.
If you’re going to say “No True Scotsman” then you can’t also claim every “Scotsman” is responsible for the actions of every other “Scotsman”.
You won’t like the answer. If you don’t want to be lumped in with other magical thinkers, then don’t be a magical thinker, else you’re in the same boat and should be evaluated the same. All flavors are the same and all are destructive, just with differing exact details. It is possible to be a scientific thinker and be evil, but this can be changed with evidence on the whole, but it is not possible to be a magical thinker and to not contribute to evil, and those aspects cannot be changed as they are core to a faulty methodology of thinking which is pervasive, insidious, and pseudo-randomly aligned with changing educational theory. If you think it’s possible to only align magical thinking with benevolent acts, you’re wrong.
So you’re “No True Scotsman” was not in regards to “Christian” but in regards to “Religious”? I don’t think OP was claiming these people aren’t religious, OP was claiming that OP’s beliefs and these people believes do not overlap.
Do you seriously think “Christian”, “Buddhist” and “Hindu” are all the same?
but it is not possible to be a magical thinker and to not contribute to evil
Over 75% of people in the world in religious in some way or another: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_irreligion
By your logic the world is overrun by evil people.
Hey if that’s her kink, good on her. But keep it to yourself lady
WTF is a “Faith Office” and why didn’t DOGE cut it
Because “DOGE” isn’t about efficiency, but rather enforcing far-right ideology, by making anything left of Mussolini ineffective.
Why is there even a faith office? gtfooh
Well because they’re Nazis
I wish conservative women would shut up as much as they ask other women to.
I’ve only seen sniveling cowards in the trump administration, no men.
“I do not permit a woman to teach, or to have authority over a man, but to be in silence.”
1 Timothy 2:12
She needs to get back in the kitchen and make some sandwiches and be seen and not heard.
Ofc Trump has a fucking faith office. I wouldn’t be surprised in the slightest if he tried implementing biblical laws like some type of Christian version of Sharia law, or called for teaching creationism as fact in schools.
It’s actually going to be worse because they plan on gutting education completely
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so, when are you starting this off? so easy to encourage others to d what one will not.
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Lol. You calling people "coward’ from behind an anonymous account on the internet.ok.
Have a good day
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