Expected to arrive at the end of the year, Cities Skylines 2 increasingly shows what is his goal: after some promotional trailers, the game seems to aim for

Expected to arrive at the end of the year, Cities Skylines 2 increasingly shows what is his goal: after some promotional trailers, the game seems to aim for

  • Andjhostet@kbin.social
    12·
    2 years ago

    I hope it isn’t locked into a liberalism ideology too much. If I want to make food and housing a human right, workers employed by the state, and/or democratically owned workplaces do I have the option for that?

    My utopian city has no landlords or bourgeoisie and I hope I can make that happen.

    • amio@kbin.social
      6·
      2 years ago

      Why don’t you go make a socialist city builder game, then? The means of production are right there for the seizing, my friend, go learn game dev right now.

      • eltimablo@kbin.social
        4·
        2 years ago

        No learn, only seize

        Edit: guys I was making a joke. If you’re going to seize anything, please learn how it works first.

      • Shiggles@sh.itjust.works
        2·
        2 years ago

        It’s communist, not socialist, but there is the fantastic Workers and Resources: Soviet Republic game made by slovakians as a criticism of the time under the soviet union.

        Colossal Order is Finnish though, so I have reasonable confidence they know socialism != communism. It’s more of an interesting twist that they let you try the orphan-crushing option.

        • Andjhostet@kbin.social
          2·
          2 years ago

          The distinction between socialism and communism gets a little silly imo. Some people claim that communism is a stateless society, and that countries like the Soviet Union practiced socialism, which is just a stepping stone towards communism. You seem to be implying the opposite. Either way, there’s like a million different things you could call these ideologies (state-socialism, market socialism, democratic-socialism, communism, anarcho-communism, Stalinism, etc)

          Ultimately, I just want workers to own the means of production in my city, whatever you want to call that.

        • amio@kbin.social
          1·
          2 years ago

          Fair enough, I was just consciously avoiding “communist” because, I don’t even know. Anything is socialist in American terms and I’m just confused, it seemed like “yur commie” would be slightly too on the nose. Not that I care too much when the context is someone’s spamming game threads.

  • technologicalcaveman@kbin.social
    10·
    2 years ago

    I’m interested, just don’t want to eventually spend 2k on dlc. To get the entirety of the first it’s 377$ with a 9% discount. Which is a bit insane.

    • ampersandrew@kbin.social
      6·
      2 years ago

      What if you only bought the expansions that speak to you though? I don’t need the content creator pack or the K pop radio station, but I did want Green Cities and Mass Transit, for instance.

      • technologicalcaveman@kbin.social
        9·
        2 years ago

        I’d rather that basics be part of the game from the start. Mass transit should have been there to begin with. Looking at a lot of these dlc it seems like they should’ve been there by default.

        • ampersandrew@kbin.social
          1·
          2 years ago

          So then what if you waited until it had all of the features that you consider necessary and then buy those on a sale? You’re a far cry from $2k spent in either case.

          • technologicalcaveman@kbin.social
            5·
            2 years ago

            I shouldn’t have to spend anything extra for basics. It should be there already. So I’ll just not pay anything and pirate it if their monetization scheme is going to be this fucked.

            • ampersandrew@kbin.social
              4·
              2 years ago

              Who determines what’s a basic and what’s expanded content then? You know what’s in it when it comes out, and you can buy it at that price or not. If they do extra work, it makes sense to sell it as an add-on. If you were happy with it before they added night clubs or weather features, were they really that essential to be included in the base package? If you weren’t happy with it before they added those things, wait until they add those things. They sell a good product at a fair price, and they’re forthcoming about what’s in it. They don’t try to keep you hooked with weird psychological tricks or gambling mechanics. Nothing about this is fucked.

    • Veraxus@kbin.social
      4·
      2 years ago

      I used to be perfectly happy with Paradox’s “slew of DLC” business model… until they raised their prices.

      Before that, I would buy everything as soon as it dropped. No biggie. Now I only buy DLC when it eventually gets those deep discount sales. I’m open to their experimental “subscription” & “seasonal bundle” models, though… so long as they include everything and they don’t get cute with exclusions.

      • emmanuel_car@kbin.social
        4·
        2 years ago

        Please, no more subscriptions. Let me own the content I purchase, as much as anyone ever owns digital content at least.

  • TwilightVulpine@kbin.social
    9·
    2 years ago

    Seems like it’s going to be a pretty difficult game, if we are supposed to solve problems that aren’t even being solved in real life.

    • ivanafterall@kbin.social
      13·
      2 years ago

      But the real-life problems aren’t unsolved because there are not solutions. It’s just that the meaningful player base is wildly toxic and spends the entire time griefing rather than trying to build or progress.

    • UnhappyCamper@kbin.social
      3·
      2 years ago

      That’s a big reason a could never get into City Skylines, I have 0 interest in managing roadways, and I feel like that’s 90% of what that game is. Now they’re going to throw even more micromanaging on top of that, I don’t think I’ll be looking to get this one.

    • SuiXi3D@kbin.social
      3·
      2 years ago

      But the thing is, we know how to fix them. It’s just that our governments refuse to in order to funnel taxpayer money to giant corporations.

  • BiggestBulb@kbin.social
    8·
    2 years ago

    I’m hoping (more than likely in vain) that we can have the opportunity to do some of the wackier stuff seen in SimCity: Societies. By that, I mean I would love to craft an authoritarian police state, a beautiful pagoda-filled village or a Disney-esque paradise town.

    SimCity: Societies was very bad in a lot of aspects (game froze all the time, roads were awful and it was massively unbalanced) but I’d be lying if I said I didn’t miss it at all when it comes to city building. I just wanna make clown schools and have a bunch of free-roaming clowns, damnit.

    • Veraxus@kbin.social
      12·
      2 years ago

      This is Paradox we’re talking about. There will be 2,000 pieces of DLC for $10 a piece.

  • Dadd Volante@sh.itjust.works
    3·
    2 years ago

    I really enjoyed the first, though I was terrible at managing traffic.

    Now I can be terrible at managing traffic AND homeless!

    • HidingCat@kbin.social
      3·
      2 years ago

      Yea, my cities’ bottleneck was always getting the traffic to be able to have the hearses do their job. Somehow that’s what causes a city to stop growing, compared to other factors like the economy.

  • guyrocket@kbin.social
    1·
    2 years ago

    I remember years ago playing SimCity for the 1st time at my cousin’s house. Started playing in the evening and stopped when the birds came out and the sun came up…much to my surprise.

    I got Cities-Skylines about a year ago and I think I put less than 5 hours into it.