not if you raise the black flag
I did that many years ago and the fact that all content is in one place instead of multiple apps is so nice.
I miss the early days of Netflix when that held true too. If I remember right piracy was down too. But everyone wanted a piece of the stupid pie and we’re back to where we started all over again
I’m not sure how the movie and tv industries didn’t see what happened with music to replicate the model… every service has pretty much everything, and consumers can simply pick their service based on features and indigestions, not exclusive content. They were blinded by greed and deserve to fail. When they are competing against free, they really need to make sure their service feels premium and easy to use, they failed miserably at this.
This comment should be at the top. We have a similar industry that has at least figured out a model giving enough value that listeners are willing to pay. Why not video? We also had a brief golden age of streaming video where Netflix showed how it could be. Why not now? We’re in the middle of a huge industry change where people are dropping cable after so many years of abuse. Why can’t they learn?
I think that’s what they mean. They sail the high seas and put all the booty in one place, like a Plex media server.
Yeah, I was agreeing and relating it to the good ol days when pirating for a one asp experience wasn’t needed unless you really wanted to.
Now we’re back to that’s the only way to easily get it all in one place is pirating. Apple TV seems to sort of have that ability but it’s not seamless because it takes you to whatever app the video is on, which still means you have to pay for all the streams.
I’m just back to buying Blu rays. To me it’s the safer option, you legally own your product and you can host everything you want yourself still. MakeMKV is a great tool.
Even when we had a few streaming services, we’d end up pirating some stuff that was available because we incorrectly assumed it wasn’t on one of them and it’s just too annoying to have to look up where something is every time.
So we’d tend to go the piracy route first if we were seeking something out and only use the streaming services if we knew off the top of our heads where something was.
Piracy is now easier than ever when you use torrent streaming clients.
Usenet is even easier with more reliable quality. Strong recommend.
Most don’t like usenet since it cost money, but you’re absolutely right, usenet is the best way. It’s what I’ve been using for over a decade now lol
For the cost of one streaming subscription I’ve got all content, downloads at full speed and is private. Can’t imagine life without Usenet and sonarr/radarr now
If not for live sports. That’s the only reason I’ve had “cable” off and on for the last decade
Shh, you trying to get c/technology banned from lemmy.world?
Still better than dealing with ads. That’s my red line.
I absolutely refuse to watch programming with ads, free or paid. I won’t do it. My time is limited and I’m not every going to willingly hand over a portion of my life to advertisements.
I’m never going back. If ad-free options go away or become too expensive, I’ll simply stop watching shit. There isn’t a price at which ad-supported programming becomes attractive.
I’d love to see the Weird Al movie. I won’t, however, because Roku won’t let me pay to watch it.
So watch it pirated. They get $0 either way.
I fucking love Al.
This is one of the greatest replies I’ve ever seen. Rats off to ya Al!
I lose no sleep downloading and pirating from these piece of shit companies.
I’ll check a stream first. If it’s not on something I have, I stream it a different way
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That and insane production budgets. A lot of stream services are dumping hundreds of millions into shows that… Really didn’t need that?
I think that is the true reason. For example D+ has around 160 mil subs but they are still losing money. What are they going to do next, beat Netflix in sub count? No, they already reached their limit already and started to lose subs. They should cut costs instead of chasing revenue.
What are they going to do next, beat Netflix in sub count?
Disney Exec: “So you’re saying we should increase our prices and crack down on password sharing, right?”
yarr harr fiddle-dee-dee
I hear Plex has a lovely, sleek interface once you turn off certain unneeded bells & whistles.
idk tho
What bells and whistles should one turn off - our server wouldn’t mind a facelift
I’ve heard tell that at the account level, individual users can turn off things like free movies & TV series, enhanced search results and all that to get a cleaner experience.
I the web UI, mouse over your avatar, go to account settings, and disable pretty much everything under ‘online media sources’. Enjoy the pure, clean Plex experience. Just see what the server offers, no more, no less.
I second this
Back to the high seas it is.
I’m not paying for 5 streaming services to watch 1 show on each. So now I’m paying for no streaming services.
Convenience as a reasonable price was the deal. It it neither convenient nor reasonably priced any more.
Cable TV all over again. Region locked DVD all over again.
Yup. They never learn.
What do you mean?
It’s never about providing good service, and always about cashing out.
And that always works.
Back to? Son, I never left
Lol…wtf is this trash article…Netflix is struggling to survive. Bullshit, they made 12B profit last year.
The article makes it out like all the big players are at a loss…they’re not…they brining in Bs in profit.
The price hikes are greed, and of course the consumers will pay it.
I was actually was on the cusp of committing to annual subscriptions to my favorite 3 this year, and then all three hiked their prices.
So yeah, one per month it is.
the sea is still here my friend.
No, it’s not. Turns out Lemmy.world does not like sea at all. In fact, they blocked “info kiosks” at ports near sea, so you have no idea about what is going on in the sea.
However, media execs acknowledged that the prices being charged by streaming services were unsustainable, and that a “crash” would follow – where companies would be forced to increase prices or go out of business.
Absolutely nobody believes you.
They won’t go out of business… they just won’t double revenue year over year. God forbid your business doesn’t grow. We need endless growth! Unlimited growth, even in a finite world.
That’s what kills me about capitalism. Everything has to be about growth. Nothing can ever be “good enough” or “sustainable”, it must always be improving at a dramatic rate to make those shareholders happy.
The economy is still in a slump and companies are still laying off people left and right, but at least the money they’re taking away from the incomes of dedicated workers are helping shareholders profit.
I wish there was a way to support the production, actors, writers, vfx artists, animators, etc. of good shows adequately while getting the piracy experience. This system really just fucking sucks. Even if you pay exorbitant amounts to streaming services, the people that made the art get jack shit.
Hmm, let’s see… You could subscribe for all the services and still pirate the content…
subscribing to the services does the opposite of support the workers. that’s why there’s a massive strike right now.
Like I said, subscriptions barely matter for the artists on those projects. Actors and animators generally get no royalties from streaming.
So if the actors and artists get a fair contract, you will happily pay for subscriptions?
Happily, not really. I pay for YouTube Premium, but I don’t like the monopoly they have and disagree with a lot of their decisions. I’d rather have a different economic system.
But yeah, I’d be willing to pay for the subscription in that case, even if I end up pirating most everything to get a better service.
The fuck are you on about?
Merely suggesting the easiest way of paying creaters, while getting the benefits for pirating. What other interpretation can there be?
You aren’t paying creators, you are paying executives and middlemen.
That article is full of it. I was paying $120-150/month for cable on top of Internet. YoutubeTV is still only $75. I don’t even bother with YoutubeTV anymore. That was way too much money per month and despite 100+ channels, there was almost nothing worth while to watch. I’m not paying $75/month for Saturday Night Live a few times per year and MSNBC on in the background while I work.
I have Netflix and Disney+. When the kids are gone I will also get rid of those. Netflix is a joke now. It takes me so much time scrolling to find a show that I even want to watch, that I usually fall asleep before that can happen. Disney+ filled their service with horrid crap from Star Wars, Marvel, and other formerly beloved intellectual property that they have sullied and ruined.
Bottom line. The Streaming services are just as bad or worse than cable was and is. The quality of the shows is mostly so low that there is nothing worth paying $75, $20, $15, or even $5 per month for. I will happily pay zero because that is what streaming and cable shows are worth, for the most part, right now.
If anyone would please just make some quality shows I would happily pay a reasonable price for it. There has been maybe one show this entire year that thought was good and that was Star Trek Strange New Worlds. Guess what? It isn’t worth paying Paramount+ for a whole year just for one show. Sorry, but they all need to get their act together. Peak TV is long gone. It is Peak Crap TV now.
I have 5 different streaming packages and pay less than I did for cable/satellite while having a vastly superior experience.
It’s not even remotely comparable.
Yeah not to mention that is is so easy to cancel and resubscribe to binge watch a show only when you need the service. I will probably get Max when House of the Dragon comes back out, but just for the last month that it is available.
I do this every football season lol. Totally agreed!
Oh, you mean to tell me that paying for a gazillion streaming services individually is somehow more expensive than bundling them all together with cable? Who could have seen that coming?
I don’t know if you were old enough to pay for cable when that was normal. But I have never felt so ripped off as I did when I was paying $100/month for 50 channels when 10 of them were news channels, 10 of them were church channels, 15 of them were shopping channels, 10 of them were in Spanish, and the other 5 I might watch sometimes but 95% of what was on was junk and they ALL played more commercials than actual content.
I went from that to piracy. Then the streaming services came and they became more convenient. I am more than ready to raise the black flag again and dig my peg leg out of the closet.
Cable wasn’t exactly popular where I was growing up. I mostly watched movies in theaters or through DVD’s.
I remember a time when all the Disney content used to be on Netflix. That was the first time I actually invested in a streaming service. But, then they decided to make Disney+ and I went, “Well it’s time. Argh Matey!”
Where are you that cable wasn’t popular?
The Netherlands. And by popular, I mean in my locality. Growing up, going to the theater was a luxury experience. I had a friend who was better off and he and I shared CD’s of movies and video games and so on.
Considering the amount of “yarrrr” in this thread I’ll probably get stabbed for this take, but: shows/movies take time and money to create, and running these services isn’t free either. Is $15 really impossible to pay when you want to watch a show?
Cable doesn’t answer the problem of “I want to see [insert show] from start to finish, starting right now”, so it’s worthless as a service for most(?) people. As such, I feel like cable should be forgotten as a point of comparison - it’s a different and much more limited type of service.
Let’s say I have no streaming subs running right now. I feel like I want to check out [insert show]. I find out which service has it, and buy a month of [service] for like $15.
I watch the whole show. Now I also have the rest of the library to check out for the rest of the month. Maybe I find a couple of other movies/shows from the service, maybe not. It still cost me a whopping $15 to watch a full show, and I also now have temporary access to a practically random selection of shows (“random” = depending on whatever service I ended up buying).
Sure if it’s a long show it can take multiple months to view it, but I still feel like the cost is minimal compared to what I get. Nobody is asking you to pay for all of the different streaming services every month.
I’m using a show as an example - but if we’re talking about buying a month ($15) just to watch a single movie, I do agree that it can feel a bit expensive. But in most cases you can find a few other movies that you can check out during the next month. If you’d want to buy a single movie digitally, they often cost like $10-15 per movie anyway - might as well buy a month of sub at that point.
Sure, I’ll also be happier if stuff stays cheap, but anyway. The usual works here: if you don’t feel like a service is worth its cost, don’t buy it.
It’s not like there’s lack of entertainment in today’s world - some free, some filled with ads, some cheap, some expensive. Pick your poison, I guess.
That money isn’t going to the Actors or Writers, it’s going to the production companies. Ya it costs money to create, but the creators aren’t getting paid.
This is what I do. I canceled Netflix and got a special for a year of HBO for less than $100 if I recall correctly. So this year I have house of dragon, gilded age, Dr who, sopranos, and many random movies. It will take me a year to get through it.
But I want to watch Star Trek. So next year I will give up my current selection and become a Trekkie with paramount+. Maybe the following year I will want star wars and grab Disney+.
Really you don’t need ALL the shows ALL the time. In fact, forced variation can be nice for discovering shows you hadn’t considered when you run out of the one you were watching.
You’re in for a treat with all the new Trekkie series! I’m going through my Paramount+ Home base now and just watched for the first time, three newer series!
Companies will charge as much as elasticity will allow them. Customers will always find the best cost / benefit relationship to maximize their limited resources.
The new technologies will make entertainment creation a lot cheaper, we might see an important decline in prices in the next few years.
I think you missed some of the points. Sure, a lot of us have no objection to paying $10-15/mon for a service to each lots of entertainment. I was more than happy to spend that on the Netflix of old.
Streaming music seems to have stuck with a model where I see value for my money and the artists get something (even if not enough). However streaming video services actively alienate their viewers by stretching the boundaries of how painful they can make it.
I suppose as long as I am not forced onto long term contracts, unwanted “tiers”, and excessive advertising, I’m good. I’ll keep with my two streaming services at a time and swap them out when they become too painful to use or I want to watch something elsewhere. Either way, I won’t cooperate with them rebuilding their cable tv monstrosity to extract ever more money and privacy out of their viewers while minimizing the content that brings us there
Nah, you’re not wrong. The article is just ridiculous for most people and if it was true then pirating would be the only way many people could even begin to see the content. As usual many people are reacting to the clickbait headline.
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Joke’s on them, now it’s easier to get high quality pirated content since it’s all on streaming services. A bunch more pirates compete on encoding quality and the best win, giving you more options, better qualities, and faster releases with high seed counts. As a bonus, most subtitles work for different releases since they’re all from the same source. Between that, storage space costs going all the way down, and all the corporate greed leading to N streaming services with expensive subscription costs, it’s the Plex/Jellyfin golden era. I’m currently serving about 40 friends and family with my Plex/*arr setup, and I’m about to add Tdarr to the mix to move everything over to HEVC and save up some disk space.
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yeah but with cable you pay to watch ads.
And soon your you will pay streaming services to watch ads, it’s just a matter of time.
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ahoy mateys
We have the basic Peacock plan and still watch ads 😔
Even the premium Peacock plan gave ads for Peacock content
