You meant ANOTHER crucial red line.
We’re running out of red ink for all these red lines being crossed.
The previous dismissals of court orders were injunctions, not rulings. That’s a contempt of court charge, not a constitutional crisis.
Today were both the first and second rulings he has openly defied. The first was refusing to return Garcia. The second was refusing to allow the AP into the Oval Office to cover the press conference.
Right, so NOW we’ll see how things are, or are not, going to work. Next, the military is up. They would need to remove him from office and let new elections run. If not, then it’s up to us, the last line of defense.
I look behind us and I just see a red road. It’s all red lines, all the way back.
No, this is probably the first one.
The previous one where they disobeyed a court order (turning around planes to El Salvador, stopping new planes from taking off) they successfully appealed that court order to where the Supreme Court declared that order void.
This one (facilitate the return of a wrongfully deported man) is the first one where they’ve just outright refused, and are pretending they can’t comply.
This is a big deal, and it’s unprecedented, even for Trump. This is the red line, and we’re going to see a full blown constitutional crisis this week if it doesn’t get resolved.
The American people’s passiveness with regard to “red lines” is about on par with Putin’s overuse of the term. I expect a bit of whining online for 24-48 hours but no meaningful actions.
Would you rather people stop dissenting online?
If dissenting online makes them feel like they are doing enough to not act IRL, yes.
I feel like that’s unlikely and that a lot of the people dissenting online are the same ones who are protesting, calling their lawmakers, etc.
Also, it’s not like any of the IRL stuff has been effective yet anyway. Online dissent probably gets seen by more eyeballs than any one protest sign or IRL action that doesn’t end up with the person doing it being arrested or killed (and thus unable to continue resisting this administration), so if it really is an either/or situation I think online dissent is more effective than IRL peaceful protest or writing yet another letter to my lawmakers.
That all said, I really don’t think it is an either/or situation, so I think we can and should be encouraging all the kinds of dissent.
American conservatives have proudly declared their desire to disregard these “red lines” for decades. I’m done waiting on the media to recognize them for what they are - enemies.
You can’t wait for the media, because the media is largely owned by the far right.
They make highly inflammatory right leaning news programs, and highly complacent left leaning news programs. It keeps the right active and angry, and tells the left to sit down and fret quietly while waiting for due process to solve problems.
And nothing will be done because it’s not just Trump crossing that crucial red line, every Republican is right there behind him.
And at least a third of the country (and another third doesn’t care).
Sadly it’ll be all of us going off the cliff if this shit persists.
In a true democracy that would be way beyond the red line, but in USA today, this is just another Monday.
No shit. That’s why I voted for Harris
No.
When he deports a citizen who is immediately killed in prison, that’s a red line.
And even then only if he’s white, and Christian enough.
These are red lines of unacceptable behavior and policy, not the lines marking when Americans will actually pay attention. And even if what you describe were to happen, all the Trump supporters would just come up with excuses, while others would protest through the usual channels and be ignored.
These are red lines of unacceptable behavior and policy
Oh man, you almost had me there, good one!
Sounds like something the Onion would have put out in their heyday, you know, before the utter collapse of reality.
I don’t think that would do mit either. Not even if it’s a pregnant woman.
It will be deflected, as the prisons fault, and Trump will continue to send pregnant women without a second thought.
I’m crushing your head!CRUSH! CRUSH! CRUSH!
McGill professors love warning about red lines from their safe space in a city that’s “just more European”. It’s a gradient, and the US is in between cherry and crimson right now.
