• Plaid_Kaleidoscooe@lemmy.world
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    2 years ago

    On one hand, I absolutely agree with this. It’s human nature to want to avoid such a fate if one can reasonably avoid it. If I had the money and could buy my way out of participation in a fucking war…I’d hate to think that I wouldn’t.

    I know it’s their home and things like that…but not everyone cares about those sorts of ties, and they become even less meaningful in death. I’m not saying I condone their actions, just that I understand.

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      I mean, I have some sympathy for the ones giving the bribes. No sympathy for the ones taking the bribes who are being charged.

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        For sure, that’s what I was commenting on. Can’t speak at all for the one’s accepting the bribes, knowing what it means for their fellow soldiers.

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        Military pay is shit and you’ve got to make up the difference somewhere.

        Living in a warzone isn’t cheap.

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      Ultimately human conflict is meaningless and there’s a non zero chance that you’ll be immortal if you survive the next ten years.

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      Well, “I understand” doesn’t mean much here, now does it?!

      I understand how many people who are unable to feel the pain of others, including the pain that they cause to others, such as Sociopaths, Psychopaths, Narcissists and so on will, if they think they can get away with it, not at all refrain from causing huge suffering to countless other people if they themselves come out of it better.

      And it’s all irrelevant: whilst it’s psychologically easier for them to cause suffering to others (as they feel no guilt) as individuals with agency they’re still the ones who choose to or not-to cause suffering to others: if they act thus they should be punished, if they don’t they should not.

      The only thing the “understanding” brings is putting such people higher up the list for surveillance and as suspect when it comes to detecting and punishing the harming of others than people who psychologically find it a lot harder act so because, unlike this group, they feel guilt.