Summary
Rumeysa Ozturk, a Turkish student at Tufts University, was detained in Somerville, MA, by masked agents claiming to be police, without charges or transparency.
The Trump administration alleges she supported Hamas, citing unverified intelligence, after her student visa was revoked.
Der Spiegel linked her detention to pro-Palestinian advocacy, including an opinion piece urging divestment from Israel.
The incident sparked outrage, highlighting long-standing surveillance and detainment of Muslim Americans under national security pretenses.
Civil liberties advocates warn of increasing government overreach targeting minority communities.
How are such agents alive? They are masked and ambush an innocent woman.
Where is the good guy with a gun?Calling player 2…
We need the Black Panthers back.
Massachusetts does not have a stand your ground law. It would be illegal for anyone else to step in with a firearm. She is also not able to acquire a firearm under Massachusetts law.
Not having a stand your ground law just means you have a duty to escape/remove yourself from the situation if it is safe to do so. It does not eliminate your right to self defense or extend it to defense of another. If someone is being kidnapped, they reasonably could not escape.
That being said, I doubt it would be ruled in favor of a defendant in this case.
She was also unable to acquire a firearm, and the police did technically identify themselves as police. Very shady overall.
the police did technically identify themselves as police
Verbally and with noting to help back up that claim.
It would be illegal for anyone else to step in with a firearm
It’s also illegal for people in plain clothes to abduct women off the street.
People carry a gun to protect themselves and their family. Not necessarily random strangers. In fact, most state CCW classes tell you to stay away from situations where you might have to use your gun to help others.
The good guy with the gun is either a cop, or a concealed carrier in the middle of the situation. In this case, cops were the bad guys.
Yup… the proper response to this situation as a bystander is to film and expose the situation. Even in a “stand your ground” state, it’s not justified to start shooting. (Not legal advice - ALWAYS know the local laws)
No the response is to fucking rise the fuck up. Because we’re next. They starting with foreigners but they come for us too. When they do Yes shoot fucking Ice agents. Especially masked men and women. Because thats fascism.
Ok… LEGAL response.
You had better be sure I would be up in those idiots’ faces with my camera causing a huge scene
My response legally Redacted.
First they came for those with student visas
And I filmed from the sidelines.And I filmed from the sidelines.
And lived to tell the tale far and wide.
And there was no one left to tell.
The people doing this don’t care who you tell if nobody is going to do anything other than film from the sidelines and complain.
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It’s easy to SAY that. You would also be in deep shit.
I’d die for it. And I would still do it.
Hopefully they won’t come for you just because you made that post online. You and I are on the same side, friend.
Honestly, if they are coming for people about their posts, I’ll be targeted. For sure. Good luck, friend.
Be honest with us, you don’t own a firearm.
It’s OK you didn’t get it.
Good guy with a gun is a myth, and is never there.
Still a bunch of masked men terrorizing a woman, should be an obvious target in the worlds most heavily armed country.
But even in this situation the good guy with a gun is absent, and the guns don’t help against government overreach, which is thepurpose ofexcuse for the 2nd amendment.
Where is the good guy with a gun?
In a coffee shop cosplaying as a tough guy.
Now this is what we should be out protesting in mass, among other things. Kidnapping people in broad daylight in unmarked uniforms, with masks on? That’s not police, that’s a bunch of Brownshirt thugs.
Yeah and this just sets a precedent for other people/groups… Wanna kidnap someone? Wear all black cover your faces and say you’re the police…
My guess is they’re hired security thugs and not actually ICE agents, hence why they’re not showing a badge or uniform.
Which is 100% illegal
The Proud Boys are more like the Brownshirts: useful for the rise of fascism, but ultimately, a disposable group that was never going to get any real power under the regime. The way ICE is acting is more analogous to the SS or Gestapo: an unaccountable group of government goons that disappear undesirables and dissidents.
There are dozens of things that have happened in the last 2 months that Americans should be protesting.
Millions of them.
Constantly.
Yeah, that’s on purpose. It’s the fascist playbook. Flood the zone with bullshit so nobody can pick one thing to be upset about, and then normalize it.
So we’re getting the Black Panthers back together right?
I desperately want this to happen, but as a white dude Im in an awkward position
Dude… Totally insane. I was saying for years this Gestapo shit was going on and was only getting worse. Absolutely horrifying to see this happening in my country after all the patriotic bullshit they blew up our asses about how great the United States was as a kid. I’m ashamed to be an American.
It is no longer your country.
Russia 2.0.
Reich 4.0
Remember to stay strapped.
And if they try to kidnap you and don’t identify themselves with badges you’re free to kill them in self defense.
Gestapo. America is Nazi now.
America, the formerly land of the free.
This is what you voted for protest-non-voters. Congratulations!
The protest voters did not meaningfully impact the election
