Have you ever heard of the term federation-washing?

  • CitricBase@lemmy.world
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    18 days ago

    People didn’t go to Bluesky because of an informed choice based on features or security. People went to Bluesky because that’s where everyone they want to follow went.

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      18 days ago

      Bluesky isn’t Twitter. That’s all that mattered to most people. A few influential people went there first and the network effect kicked in.

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      18 days ago

      Hell I wouldn’t even say that… they don’t understand it, they don’t care to understand it, they don’t know or care what federated means. They went there because, it’s not currently nazified twitter.

      I get that it’s “technically” federated… but practically it’s for all practical purposes just a proprietary program, run by a group that isn’t currently horrific. Unfortunately everything I see in it says, it’s every bit as vulnerable, and it can be good for as long as the owners care about not becoming a nazi propoganda machine. Actual recourse from it going evil… is non existant.

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    18 days ago

    None of the people I follow are active on Mastodon. The selling point to me for Bluesky is that it’s essentially a Twitter clone not owned by a billionaire. It’s friendly to the communities I’m part of specifically and doesn’t have ads. What more should anyone ask for from a social media platform?

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    18 days ago

    I had a nice little profile on there until about a month ago. I didn’t delete when I saw AI spammers join. And I kept my profile even when the mods were starting to become reddit-ish. What sent me over the edge was when they announced a partnership with an AI company who said they were “just there to beef up security”. Yeah, no, not for me. Super sad, too, because Bluesky is a good idea, but I’m sticking with the fediverse.

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    18 days ago

    it’s not yet federated properly, or would not be completely, but it’s still a good player in the game for now. I’ll advocate against it if shareholders start shenanigans.

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      18 days ago

      I get the mentality, but that’s the problem with enshitification. It always starts good, but once all the twitter traffic moves over, and the world becomes dependent on BlueSky the way it still is for Twitter, what do they become next?

      It would be better to push people away from the closed platform and towards the actual open platform.

      Edit: maybe BlueSky is open source. In such case, if they start fucking around, maybe it would be simple to fork this source code and form your own community. I think until other instances gain tractions, it is hard to consider BlueSky comparable to mastadon.

      https://github.com/bluesky-social/social-app

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        18 days ago

        maybe it would be simple to fork this source code and form your own community

        The network effect makes this extremely difficult, even with the source code, it’s basically starting from scratch again.

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          18 days ago

          This would be good. I just hope it can do so while still being a part of BlueSky (as it is today).

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        18 days ago

        The devs also made it clear that if ever bsky became crap, the system is made so that you could just jump over to another instance and go from there.

        So far so good, but yeah I get it, the more they talk about investors, the more I’m reluctant to jump in fully.

        • MysticKetchup@lemmy.world
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          18 days ago

          Except they haven’t actually backed that up with a way for you to jump servers. If the central Bsky server goes down, it takes the network with it. Until they actually let other people host, it’s just meaningless posturing. Without a way for people to leave their network you are as captive there as you are on Twitter

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    17 days ago

    My $0.02 from extensive cryptocurrency experience:

    A centralized project with a user base never becomes decentralized later. It’s always a lie to get users quickly. Centralization generally just gets worse.

    I think BlueSky will keep half-assing decentralization until their owners decide that narrative is no longer necessary.

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    18 days ago

    Every time i’m amazed at how such authors are talented at avoiding mentioning Nostr 😏