Summary
Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy stated he is willing to resign if it ensures peace or NATO membership for Ukraine.
“If it is peace for Ukraine, and if you really want me to leave my post, I’m ready,” he said. “Alternatively, I can trade this for NATO membership… I’m focusing on Ukraine’s security today, not in 20 years.”
His comments come amid tensions with Donald Trump, who falsely suggested the Ukrainian president was responsible for starting the war.
Meanwhile, U.S.-Russia negotiations continue without Ukraine, which Zelenskyy firmly rejects. Zelenskyy emphasized the importance of Ukrainian involvement in any peace negotiations.
This is what being a leader looks like.
It would be a shame if a shit end to this war buries Zelensky in history. He’s not perfect, but he deserves some monuments.
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For you
I can’t see the preceding posts as they’ve been deleted, but I support this message 💯
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Be angry at russia
It’s not by copying russia that you become better than them.
Let me know when Ukraine is trying to be a colonial power and invade it’s peaceful neighbours
The question in life is whether you can survive long enough to be better.
abolish human rights is not a good way to last long
It’s called martial law, you clown. Zelensky stayed to lead his country’s defense, despite being offered a ride out, while Putin pranced away at the first sign of danger from Wagner and resides 24/7 in his bunker.
I get the idea, but the point here isn’t lasting long (in a shitty situation), it’s to overcome the current crisis.
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Yes, drafts happen when you get invaded. Soldiers are needed, this isn’t a Vietnam situation like the USA pulled. The country is actively being invaded, soldiers are needed, it’s not rocket science.
Draft happens when you are ruled by an authoritarian government and you have no rights.
Drafts happen when you need soldiers when you’re getting invaded. It’s no time to be a coward. You can’t “object” your way out of being invaded.
Drafts have nothing to do with authoritarian govs.
You registered for selective service comrade? Or do you have bone spurs?
Where are you from, if you don’t mind me asking?
It’s almost like they are in a war to defend their country from being invaded and destroyed. What a concept.
So you would have taken the offer to leave the country for safety and handed the country over Putin, got it.
And so is every single person in this country that voted for Trump. Traitors.
The sad part is the majority of his voters lose power and their country. The wage gap will only grow. Unless you were already rich, or had an income of a few million dollars a year, you only made life harder for yourself. But hey, at least those other people have it harder as well!
The thing is that it doesn’t matter how bad Trump makes it for maga voters so long as he makes it worse for those labeled as undesirable have it worse. As long as maga voters can look to someone else and power trip over them they’ll give Trump carte blanche. As long as those ‘perverted trans pedophiles’ can be assaulted without the fear of being arrested they’re happy.
The actions of a man who loves his country and not power? Politicians in the US (on both sides) could never comprehend this.
Would his resignation prevent future attempts at running for president?
surely they’d preclude him getting voted back in…
He literally cannot resign right now. What he is talking about. There’s isn’t even legal framework for it. I’m sure they’d find a way of they had to. But as it stands right now.
No one can remove him from office under Martial Law.
He is bound by oath and constitution to serve his country as head of state and may not delegate those responsibilities.
Elections are prohibited under Martial Law.
Frankly, these are really bad laws. It is a good thing that he appears not to be inclined to even try to take advantage, but those laws explicitly encourage remaining at war in order to maintain power, so a worse person would definitely be trying to maintain a forever war situation.
Who the fuck would actually want his job? Besides some Russian cunt?
plenty, like the Banderite Zalushni who is way more popular.
But OC most opposition parties are forbidden, opponents put in jail and there are no elections.
Boss.
An infinitely better leader than the shitstain America has “leading” them.
lol now, US president Krasnov Trump can’t say President Zelensky is a dictator.
If Russia gets Ukraine, it’ll be 2-3 years of peace while Russia rebuilds and regroups it’s forces before it’s onto invading the next country. Probably Poland, Belarus, or Georgia. And he’ll keep doing it again and again - waging war with the west until they win or the public decides that saving a few pennies on their taxes is more important than preventing totalitarianism from subsuming Europe again.
What’s the source where you’re getting this? Did Putin say that?
Because that’s literally what happened when Putin annexed Crimea. The west let him keep the territory he stole as a concession and then he just invaded again a few years later.
Holy shit, do you people have the memory of a goldfish? First it’s “Zelenskyy started the war” and now this… Embarrassing that you’re this ignorant about what’s going on in the world.
Whoa there. I was just looking for a source for the information. That doesn’t mean Putin good or Russia didn’t invade. If that’s an opinion though. Nothing from Putin’s military invasions indicates he would go into Europe.
Source for what? My prediction? It’s me, bro. The source is me. That’s how opinions work.
That’s fine. Can I ask how you arrived to that opinion?
No, you may not.
Just say inductive reasoning next time and avoid the question 🙋♂️
Literally the opposite of what Trump does - gives up everything in order to retain power.
NATO aint what it used to be. I suggest a new startup instead.
Edit: Lol, people downvoting me when one of the founding members is threatening to invade other members. Idiots.
EUTO
Even if the USA were to leave NATO or refuse to participate, there still isn’t a better security guarantee than the remaining block being obligated to engage militarily in your defense, and the block still contains nuclear powers.
Right… so start a new organization with those members. Ukraine isn’t joining NATO with Trump holding veto powers. Anyone who can’t see this is myopic.
Why would the US leave when the russian asset can do more damage from within?
Ok, so that’s the crux of it that I think was unclear in your original post.
Your initial post was read by me (and presumably others) as “NATO without the backing of the USA isn’t a meaningful defense group”
But I think what you’re saying is “ENTRY to NATO with the USA pulling the strings is an unrealistic goal”
It’s a bit confusing, since nato was always the US protection racket for its vasals who had to buy their crap to assist them every few years when the great policeman of the world decided some poor country needed to be bombed into democracy.
Now the master, impotent on the world stage is cannibalising its own.As the demon Kissinger said: it may be dangerous to be America’s enemy, but to be America’s friend is fatal.
he has nothing to give up or offer.
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Again this is russias fault. Zelenskyy is not a dictator.
Pretty sure this individual has an agenda, go look at their comment history.
When I get worked up I will absolutely make a few long posts, but this thread alone is a lot.
Wish I could tag users in lemmy/jerboa
Oh 100%. I’ve seen them before.
Drafting people by force and not allowing any male between 18-60 to leave the country it’s ukranian government decision. Being invaded by someone doesn’t magically turn you into a hero.
Mkay, not a dictator? He’s considered a hero by many for defending their homes from a colonist actual dictator.
for defending their homes
Politicians don’t fight their wars. It’s a bunch of poor people like you and me that defend their homes and they don’t need rulers to do it.
He’s in Ukraine. Organizing running the country and visiting the front lines. Generals are needed in wars to organize things, even when they don’t fight. If Zelenskyy left Ukraine then sure. Also Zelenskyy is not a dictator.
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What do you think he’s doing on his tour?
So what the fuck would you do? And then play out a realistic scenario of the result of your idea
That’s so funny.
He is an authoritarian ruler, but the only examples you can provide are events that occurred AFTER the war started.
Russia attacked another country, but the guy desperately fighting off a world power is the bad guy.
Fuck you are stupid.
Are you even real?
