Europe and Ukraine are learning how little the U.S. cares, as the new president aligns himself with their greatest enemy.

The thing about a war is it forces people to pick a side. And Donald Trump, it seems to many in Europe, is siding with Vladimir Putin.

Seven days of presidential interventions in the Russia-Ukraine conflict have made real the nightmares of Ukrainians and many of their allies, upending the transatlantic relationship that has underpinned European security since 1945.

If there were any lingering doubts about the extent of Trump’s willingness to make enemies in Europe, he ended it Tuesday night when he blamed Ukraine for having “started” the war with Russia. Such blatant defiance of the fact of Putin’s unprovoked invasion three years ago shocked even America’s most loyal friends in the region.

“Jesus,” one British government official said privately in response to the president’s outburst.

“We now have an alliance between a Russian president who wants to destroy Europe and an American president who also wants to destroy Europe,” another European diplomat observed in recent days, declining to be identified discussing sensitive matters. “The transatlantic alliance is over.”

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      It’s an unstable country that enabled this to happen. Yes, there are a lot of people who would never do this awful shit but, sorry, this is what the US is and largely has been.

      Trump is a symptom, it was the institution that is US and many of its people that allowed to get into power. You can’t just pin it on him and then when he eventually(please let it be soon) dies act like anything is fixed. The US is putin’s ally and there are many unfortunate people along for the ride. That is a truth you need to face or nothing will ever get better.

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      It’s painful to say, but it’s true until Congress or SCOTUS end his consolidated power executive order. Until then, our entire government is complicit.

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      Wrong. America wasn’t Trump in 2012. I would even argue America wasn’t Trump in 2016. They were dumb, naive, optimistic, victims of thr EC… Pick your excuse. America wasn’t Trump in 2020.

      Then they saw the insurrection, the nuclear secrets in the bathroom, the 11k votes mafia extortion, the sexual abuse liability, the racism, the criminal convictions, (let alone the whole first presidency dumpster fire) and on the other hand eggs were a bit expensive and they went with trump. En masse.

      And now trump has the highest approval ratings, north of 50% even.

      That excuse has sailed, America IS trump. Not everyone is, but enough are.

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    So… does Europe even get a fighting chance or can Putin just go “Imma nuke whoever moves a finger” and Trump just responds with “sucks to be EU”?

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      The UK and France have nukes too. I’m of the opinion that Europe could handle Russia in current state as they’re weak thanks to this war, but that also depends on how much help, either direct or indirect, Trump is willing to give Russia. China too, for that matter.

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          Actually, unofficially, there are more of these kinds. It’s a public secret now anyways. Wait, I don’t know about the keys though…

          Not talking about subs,but the payload.

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      EU can deal with Russia alone well enough. Assuming US doesn’t come in on Russia side of course.

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    Musk’s America. Trump is an impotent CEO, answerable to Chairman of the Board of the USA Elon Musk. At least, that’s what it looked like to me in the Hannity interview. And once Musk deposes Trump, things are gonna get darker fast.

    Obviously, I hope I’m wrong, this is all speculation, but holy shit this looks ugly.

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    The transatlantic alliance is now Canada-EU, & US-Russia.

    It’s still trans-atlantic, but … it’s just that “now there are two of them”

    ( insert meme of those obsidian-colored “aliens” actors )

    The only question remaining is … with Orban IN the EU, & openly enemy of civil-rights & the EU,

    AND the EU’s countries apparently courting Millei??


    ( snappy TV jingle, here )

    WILL the EU survive as a civil-rights aligned entity,

    XOR will it “obey the zeitgeist” & obey the fascist-global-alliance?

    Humankind wants to know!

    Stay tuned, for next-week’s installment in “how much hell can be established on Earth THIS week?™”, the global reality-TV program which some hope NONE of us will survive!

    ( insert jingle here )

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