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    American here:

    I would like for the civilized world to do a full trade embargo on the US. I want the economy to nosedive so hard that either the GOP votes to remove the motherfucker from office, or get crushed in the biggest electoral landslide in history in 2026.

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      As a Canadian, it really really sucks that we have to hurt our friends to help them, or you’ll hurt us all worse. It really sucks that you, personally, had to say those things too, but it’s also brave, and makes me hopeful that we can get through this.

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      That is probably the most effective thing that could happen. But if they won’t do it to Israel for committing genocide then I doubt they’d do it for it’s political doppelgänger.

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        I’m almost as disappointed in the rest of the world not standing up to the USA as I am disappointed in my fellow citizens’ abdication of social and civic responsibility, common decency, and basic humanity.

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      The only problem with accelerationism, is that sometimes it accelerates in a direction we didn’t expect or want.

      It’s very possible that whatever terrible consequences befall our political body have been planned well in advance by people smarter than us, or those in the cameras, and this whole thing is the groundwork for actually seizing and abolishing democracy.

      Best case, we depose a wanna-be despot because things go to shit.

      More likely case: we get both concentration camps AND a dictator.

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      Translation: I don’t want to to go or of my comfort zone and actually do anything. I just want those other people across the world to fix it for me.

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    I plan on complaining about it on the Internet. That’ll show 'em!

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    Yeah, I voted for Harris. Unfortunately, 6.27 Million 2020 Biden voters did not do the same.

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      And far more didn’t vote at all.

      Let’s stop acting like we’re so surprised. Millions were told repeatedly what would happen and they did. Not. Care.

      This is America. In all its ugliness. We truly need to own it because enough people here did not care.

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        Thats what I said, they didn’t vote at all. Trump votes did increase but only barely. The DNC voters just stayed home because everybody shits on them online.

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          Understood. Though if that comment “Fascism is on your hands” was to me. As stated here I’ve already prevented a take over of our government once. Alongside in communication with NATO and The UN and China. To help prevent fascism and expansionism. Though it is only if they decide to listen. So in the end it is on their hands if they do not listen. I am doing my best to prevent or halt events but one can only do so far.

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      Simple I couldn’t vote due to. Kamala deciding to stay silent in my offers. I don’t align with speeches but visions. I asked for a private dinner to discuss these future.

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      If they wanted to vote for a right wing reactionary they would have voted for Trump, not the one pandering to his base.

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          The blood is on the hands of anyone that supported the duopoly. Fascism has been here but liberals have been too distracted at brunch to pay attention. Everytime they accept ‘lesser evil’ they are accepting incremental fascism…

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            The USA is a first past the post system.

            The choices were good and bad. “Not supporting the duopoly” gave fascism. You’re effectively a fascist, that is your impact on the world.

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                Let me key you in- everyone thinks you’re a shithead. No one gives a fuck how sanctimonious you feel for “voting your conscience” when it’s clear you and people like you allowed the worst possible option to assume power.

                Because your “purity” is doing fuck all for the people that are going to go to camps, have their healthcare fucked with, their entire lives upended.

                Sincerely, eat shit.

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                  It sounds like somebody got triggered, liberals put Trump into power by being ineffective at governing and ratcheting all of the Republican right-wing legislation that’s put in place over the last 50 years. If liberals bothered to hold their own politicians accountable and refuse to support them when they did actions that directly targeted the working class, someone like Biden or Trump would never have had the opportunity to come into office.

                  Yours is the party that is willing to overlook a genocide and in some cases deny that there is a genocide, a party that labeled protesters to that genocide as terrorists. That has laid the groundwork and built the foundation for things like mass deportation, militarizing police departments which Trump will now weaponize. Liberals that spent 50 years accepting small amounts of lesser evil which in turn accepting incremental fascism.

                  This is a bed that liberals have made for themselves and the rest of the country and now they’re really uncomfortable with it. They love talking about purity tests while allowing their own politicians to get away with everything that they want to because they know that liberal voters are ignorant enough to keep coming back and elect them, because they have no red line, they have no backbone.

                  Liberal voters are so ineffective at creating change they target the symptoms of a corrupt system and not the system of exploitation itself. In case this is not clear, Trump is a symptom of a corrupted system. And by refusing to address that corrupted system that their party is part of. They continue to harm the marginalized communities that they constantly virtue signal for. But it’s very difficult to see that harm that you are inflicting when you’re busy at brunch when your president is in office

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    Yes, I already did, even before this particular news broke out…

    I tried to individually tell every one I know IRL (which is not too many ppl sadly), basically told every single one of them to consider back-up career options… There are a couple of 1-year exchange students from Europe in my floor and I have not-subtly hinted at them to make contingency plans for PhD training back home. I’ve been following the news very carefully recently so I can share relevant items as soon as possible… The people need to know. I’ve even considered making know-your-rights printouts before they claimed they’re doing an ICE raid in Chicago, but realized how little resources I have for that… I absolutely will do something. Not sure what it is but I can’t see society go this way.

    I just feel bad that as a non-US citizen there is only so little I can do… I don’t even know if I could join a protest without being considered for deportation at this rate. Am planning my leave as well so there’s that.

    Funny incident, I blurted out to my family 2-months ago that Trump will probably build a concentration camp and was told to shut the F up… Murphy’s law I suppose

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    Recommenting from another post:

    I sent a text to those I love in any capacity, even former coworkers who’ve probably deleted my number. Not a group text - one by one. I think it’d be prudent for all US readers to consider doing the same.

    Knowing some of you are like me, in that you might not know how to word such a text to someone not expecting it from you, I offer you my copy/pasted text:

    America has a concentration camp now. I won’t send you anything more…it’s kind of rude that I’m sending this one. https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/donald-trump-announces-plan-to-send-migrants-guantanamo-bay/

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    A consideration to the ending of slavery in the United States was the advent of photography. Film was used to share the horror of the Nazi concentration camps in WW2 because they knew there would be people who deny history. Israel denied access and targeted journalists in Gaza for over a year for a reason.

    Public perception sways from indifference to protests when they can’t look away from the destructive results. It’s the whole reason black sites like Guantanamo Bay exist in the first place and were used to hold extradited citizens without due process for years, they want to pretend the Constitution doesn’t exist and they haven’t sworn oaths to it and will do everything they can to hide their crimes.

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    I dunno man…are you? I can’t afford to go to prison. I have three kids that rely on me for sustenance and a house. Nothing that Trump administration does is going to make life more difficult for me currently. I’m emailing politicians, trying to make good points online, and protest. I think that’s all I can do right now. Now, if my family is threatened, or I can no longer provide for my family, then we’ll talk again.

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      Nothing that Trump administration does is going to make life more difficult for me currently.

      Woof. I remember saying that back in 2017. Four years later…

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    I guess most Americans will celebrate? They voted for it, the end of the tyrannical woke Biden era.

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    Guantanamo bay was a thing ever since 2002. Biden and Obama tried to make it smaller. Trump is trying to grow it. If there was a clear action to be done that ended this abhorrence it would have been done by now already, but it has proved too resilient already. So no, there isn’t anything that’s gonna be done about it, except grow it as per Trump’s request.