• can@sh.itjust.works
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    3 months ago

    Some of my meds, sure, but others are no doubt helping regardless of the late-stage capitalist hellscape.

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      3 months ago

      Yes. SSRI isn’t a “make you happy pill” it’s legitimately something countering a physical problem with serotonin production in the brain.

  • A_Pile_of_Frog@sh.itjust.works
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    3 months ago

    Oh no, a solution that helps me to not be a blob, laying in my bed, womdering if should i even get up. The horrors of therapy actually helping me to get shit done.

    God, i hate anti-therapy or anti-meds posting.

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      3 months ago

      Both can be true at the same time. Therapy and meds can be wonderful to help create a better world than the soul-crushing dystopia we’re currently heading for.

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      3 months ago

      The problem is that those it doesn’t work for just get told to keep trying. Just keep throwing money at something that doesn’t work. “Try therapy” is almost a thought terminating response to any problem.

      It’s wonderful that medication and CBT work for some. They do not work for me, and that’s something I know because I’ve tried and tried and tried. But the only response I’ve gotten when seeking support is the “try therapy and meds!”

      There’s also a substantially amount of privilege in being able to access therapy and medications. They are not universally accessible. If you are LGBT in a rural area, the “problem” that they will try to fix and medicate you for will be that you are LGBT. Most therapists in my area do not take insurance because getting it covered is complicated and my state is attempting to get therapists notes entered into a publicly accessible database. I’m losing insurance this month, but even with insurance before $500 or so a month to try to get my brain working, especially when it hasn’t been fucking working because my problems are external - like what’s the fucking point?

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      3 months ago

      I mean, I’m anti-meds for treating exogenic issues when something can be done for those exogenic issues.

      If I’m sitting at home with the heater on and I start feeling warm and flushed, I wouldn’t take an ibuprofen (as an anti-pyretic) to bring my temperature down, I’ll turn the heater off.

      It’s the same for mental health, if the sole source of the stress/sorrow is external, medication is nothing more than a bandaid, which is better than nothing if the exogenic influence is outside your individual control (which it often is)… But we are at a point where the majority of people with mental health issues are experiencing a level of exogenic influence and there are enough of us that if we organised we could change the factors that are causing or worsening our mental health symptoms.

      So it bears talking about, is medication always appropriate?

      Medication is important, especially for endogenic conditions, and medication is life saving. But if you have exogenic depression and the meds aren’t working, the new prescription is protest.

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        3 months ago

        Medication isn’t just a bandaid on outside factors, it can serve as a short term treatment tool to help someone face the issues they are struggling with. I would bet most people on some kind of antidepressant were not on them permanently, just long enough to get stable and see results from therapy and work. That’s the problem with being anti-medication without much nuance, it stigmatizes the tools people use as being unnecessary bandaids or crutches. It just screams “you don’t need meds, just deal with your issues”.

  • But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world
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    3 months ago

    TBF there is something to be said for coping with and learning to live in the world you inhabit, not the world you wish it to be.

    Doesn’t mean you should stop trying to make the better future happen, but contribute, don’t just wait for it to magically happen.

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    This has been so much of my problem with therapy. It’s the shit situation that needs to be fixed. If I was currently in a home that belonged to me, knew that I would have food next month, and wasn’t terrified of being arrested for now carrying “wrong” documentation… I don’t think I’d need therapy. I’ve got a fuck load of coping mechanisms, but journaling and art don’t beat hunger and fascism.

    Weed just seems better than anything else I’ve tried. It makes various physical pains go away. It makes food palatable. It makes sex better. It makes every film high cinema. It unlocks creative freedom. Video games are like stepping into a new world.

    I don’t understand why replacing 50 mg of THC with whatever mg of Wellbutrin or Lexapro or whatever is the “better” solution. I don’t understand why CBT is pushed as the “gold standard” to the point where practitioners will lie on intake and say they don’t push it.

    And as someone who has taught research design and statistics, taken graduate courses in social science research… so much of the base frameworks in psychology have very little evidence. Things like the Stanford Prison Experiment and Milgram just were not good (or ethical) research. Freud was so full of shit it’s funny that his name is a letter away from Fraud - look into how he treated the victims of sexual assault. A lot of surveys and instruments have questionable validity (cough, cough IQ)

    Fuck, I was helping a girl work through a psychology textbook, and it basically claimed that girls didn’t get autism because they are naturally more empathic.

    In southern states too - the bulk of providers are the Dr. Phil type. “Tough love,” hypocrisy, and dubious sexual ethics. Institutions are prisons. Most mental health crises end in jail.

    Mental health care is seriously fucked and maybe that’s why the situation is so shit.

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        I wrote that comment on 50 lol.

        Best paper I’ve ever written was done over 36 hours on a couple of addy, three pink Monsters, several shots of rotgut vodka, and 200 mg THC spread over the course of it.

        500 mg is where I get fucked up. I did 1000 mg once and experienced the Christian hell. 50 mg is like being a normal human being.

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    3 months ago

    L4D was a phenomenal game. I wish I could go back in time and get a group of four of us together to play the way we used to.

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      3 months ago

      There’s new games out with the same vibe, try uh, Helldivers 2 or that WH40K: “Darktide”

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    3 months ago

    Yes and its totally reasonable to excpect that from a mental health professional. Literally everyone else but you has to be responsible for your mental health right?

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      3 months ago

      It would have been nice if my school provided therapists didn’t sabotage my education when it was free.

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    3 months ago

    maybe your problem is that you think that’s what the medication is for.

    is there a special kind of therapy for being a dumbass