And what is the evidence for it being a Chinese spying platform? Is it owned by a Chinese company? Is there any hard evidence? Why is it so controversial?

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    Two reasons, both related to being owned by a Chinese company.

    1. It’s mining data for the Chinese company.

    2. The Chinese company can make their algorithm present whatever they want. So they can play up criticism of the US and downplay criticism of China.

    The degree of separation between the communist government and private companies is uncertain, so yeah.

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      Finally, someone who seems to be providing an answer based on objective fact rather than their own political perspective.

      I’m getting the sense that the issue is simply that ByteDance is a Chinese company and their data farming is suspected of being accessible to the CCP, which may effectively be a means of spying on American citizens and as misinformation tactics. Not really any different the other way around, of course, but at least that makes sense as a rationale for banning it in the U.S.

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        There are problems with the law as well. The main one is that Tik Tok buys a whole lot of data about Americans and their browser history etc from data brokers. So they don’t necessarily need the app to gather information. Comparisons of the Tik Tok app vs it’s counterpart in China exist and they paint a pretty significant picture of the differences and similarities that explain how it could be used to push a narrative or propaganda. Barring that though two things can be true. It can be true that Tik Tok is a danger to national security, and also be lobbied against by American Tech companies.

        What we’re seeing is that this law was the result of several things and doesn’t just have one singular aim. Anyone who says it’s just about one singular thing just doesn’t want to admit the validity of the other arguments because it ruins how they feel about the federal government, Tik Tok, China, Trump, Biden etc.

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    Appealing to an out of touch, jingoistic voting base and cracking down on a social media platform where “the youths” are exposed to “woke commie socialist propaganda”. Also, yes it is owned by a Chinese company, ByteDance.

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      Your link provided me with more proper information than your biased quick take, so thanks for that, I guess.

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    AIPAC wants it gone because Gen Z can’t easily be manipulated into thinking Israel is a peace-loving democracy surrounded by savage terrorists.

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    It’s about narrative control. Cia has tools to promote/restrict content with x and facebook. (read twitterfiles). They don’t have it for tiktok.

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      And on the flip side it is very dangerous to give Chinese intelligence direct access to propagandize to Americans. Look at how successful Iranian intel was on getting people on Reddit to back The Houthi Militia.

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    Because Facebook can’t compete fairly so they’re using regulatory capture to kill it.

    Technically the Chinese government could also use it to spy on Americans and that’s a problem because they’d be taking Er Jerbs - 'Muricans should spy on 'Muricans.

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      China blocks much of the internet its citizens can access in order to preserve its ideological grip on their country. I share concerns about data privacy in the U.S., but I would definitely be more concerned about a foreign government (especially an enemy of the U.S.) having access to our private data than our own government or even our own corporations.

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        Corporations don’t have residency in specific countries. They are subject to the laws of all the countries they do business in. It is quite fair to be more concerned about China than other jurisdictions but… don’t underestimate the greed of corporations. Meta itself has been specifically entangled in election interference before via Cambridge Analytica.

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          Yeah, I don’t trust corporations to do the right thing either, but at least their motivations are based on greed, not nationalistic concerns.

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      Seems like you’re not really into the spirit of the forum, mate. Maybe just don’t comment if you have no answer to provide, hm?