Teachers will be forced to tell parents that their child is questioning their gender even if the young person objects under new guidance for schools in England, the equalities minister has indicated.

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    Teachers are public servants.

    If they’re hiding necessary information about my kid from me, that’s not serving the tax payers. That’s government employees determining decisions for kids that aren’t their own, without taking any risk for how these decisions turn out.

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      If your child is too afraid of telling you something important about themselves or their lives, that is a YOU problem. Public servants exist to protect children from risks to their health and safety, including risks at home. Nobody has a right to abuse their children. If you want to know about their lives and challenges, you need to make yourself a safe person for them to confide in. If you are not, that’s on you and you alone.

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        If your child is too afraid of telling you something important about themselves or their lives, that is a YOU problem

        Did you tell your parents everything in high school?

        I smoked weed for the first time when I was 13, I didn’t tell my parents. Is that because my parents are bad? I didn’t tell them I had sex with my first girlfriend, does that make my parents bad? I didn’t tell them I was with my homies and he was speeding down gardener road, going 100.

        Are my parents bad?

        Public servants exist to protect children from risks to their health and safety, including risks at home.

        And we have standards for that, if parents suspect abuse, they have to report it. Whether it’s for the + community, or if it’s for the straight cis community.

        Nobody has a right to abuse their children.

        I agree.

        If you want to know about their lives and challenges, you need to make yourself a safe person for them to confide in.

        I agree.

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      Estimates of child abuse range from 10-20% of all school age children in the UK. Any person who is working in a classroom (including TAs and volunteers) has had some amount of safeguarding training to help mitigate the risk of harm to children.

      It is literally our/their job to help prevent or mitigate harm that might come to children in their home lives, and teachers, admins, and safeguarding leads make decisions every day based on a clear and well-monitored framework to do so. This decision, made by people with little or no experience in the field, spits in the face of all of that.

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        Estimates of child abuse range from 10-20% of all school age children in the UK. Any person who is working in a classroom (including TAs and volunteers) has had some amount of safeguarding training to help mitigate the risk of harm to children.

        Exactly. “ALL SCHOOL AGE CHILDREN.” We already have all these ways that teachers are obligated to report abuse if they suspect it. Why do we need to carve out special treatment of the LGBTQIA2S+ communities? They’re just humans. If teachers suspect abuse, they should report it, whether it’s for LGBTQIA2S+ or straight cis kids.

        It is literally our/their job to help prevent or mitigate harm

        No your job is to be a public servant and educate kids. It’s the parents responsibility to ensure their kids are safe.

        This decision, made by people with little or no experience in the field, spits in the face of all of that.

        Because it comes to parental rights, and limiting the influence government employees push on our youth.

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      Kids are not your property.

      If your kid is trans or gay and they don’t feel safe coming out to you then that’s your fault. There are no decisions being made. Kids are going to be queer weather you like it or not.

      If you think you can “do something” about your kids being queer then that’s probably why they don’t want to tell you.

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        Kids are not your property.

        Legally, parents/guardians are responsible for them. If my kid breaks something in a store, do they arrest my kid if he’s unwilling to pay?

        If your kid is trans or gay and they don’t feel safe coming out to you then that’s your fault.

        I agree.

        There are no decisions being made

        Deciding to intentionally withhold information from parents is a decision.

        Kids are going to be queer weather you like it or not.

        I agree.

        If you think you can “do something” about your kids being queer then that’s probably why they don’t want to tell you.

        I agree.

        What are you even arguing, dude? You’re just saying some blanket statements.