New polling shows national Republicans and Iowa Republican caucusgoers were more interested in “law and order” than battling “woke” schools, media and corporations.

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    It would be nice if my country could have two functional political parties. Right now we have one that thinks if it does something once a decade it is too radical and the other is eating horse dewormer.

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      We have a conservative party and a proto-fascist party.

      The vast majority of Americans are neither.

      Edit: probably not vast, but an easy majority

      • Nah, look at the numbers. Three quarters support for single payer.

        Hell, when you explain “defund the police” it has overwhelming majority support even by conservatives.

        Vast majority are very liberal, just too busy being buried by capitalism to vote.

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          I feel like a lot of progressive ideals lately are simply plagued but godawful marketing.

          Great ideas that are given a verbal shorthand that is confusing, misleading, needlessly polarizing, easily demonized, or all of the above.

          Pride, Black Lives Matter, Occupy Wall Street, Antifa, Defund the Police, Woke, Antiwork, and lots lots more…

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      I’m hoping at least a significant number have since Trump has spent years now telling them that their votes didn’t count anyway.

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      I’d be fine if they just would get over their lying, grifting, shit-slinging “leaders.” Of course, while I’d like if there were “legitimate” conservative candidates, the truth is that I don’t know what that would even look like. Eisenhower?

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    Yes, DeSantis schtick is getting old. It’s not a real policy. Most people don’t even have a clear view of what woke is even supposed to mean.

    Even Trump doesn’t care for it.

    “I don’t like the term ‘woke’ because I hear ‘woke woke woke.’ It’s just a term they use, half the people can’t even define it, they don’t know what it is,” Donald Trump

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    You mean some of them are starting to remember that people are just free to have their own opinions on things? Who could have seen it coming…

    Problem with the outrage/fear machine is its not sustainable. The brain gets tired of it eventually, particularly when there’s some cognitive dissonance down there somewhere.

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    Hate, anger and the church pulpit are the main things that drive a right wing voter.

    The word may change, as it has many times in the past, but the emotion behind it will never be abandoned.

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      It’s not even the church pulpit. It’s whatever shit they’re spewing on YouTube, newsmax, OAN, truth social, etc.

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        Some “church” pulpits are helping spew that stuff, too. (Not all churches, and I’d go so far as to say not real churches. Political campaign theaters masquerading as religious institutions.)

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      I don’t know, I’d say the term ‘racism’ (another word with multiple conflicting definitions) has hijacked political discourse more than ‘woke’.

      I’m pretty sure the hijacking that the term racism has been through is the reason woke is used so much. Cause when you’re woke you think everything’s racism

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    Never lose sight of the fact that you’re supposed to direct your politicians to fight for your issues, and not the other way around.

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    I don’t think they’re actually beginning to care about other people’s opinions and beliefs, I think, I PRAY, they’ve begun to realize that campaigning on the idea you’re going to spend millions of taxpayer dollars on enforcing their beliefs isn’t what you pay taxes for.

    I beg of them to realize exactly how much these republican bastards waste their OWN money on useless crap instead of the schools, infestructure, and societal improvements they’re meant to be spent on.

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    As a conservative, I’m fine with some broad anti-‘woke’ policies, but banning how people dress is absurd, and the insane focus from some candidates is wild.

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          what about the parents that want their kids to learn the facts so that they have some empathy for their peers that are lgbtq+ or learn that they are ok being lgbtq+?

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            what about the parents that want their kids to learn the facts

            Then ya know…the parents should teach their kids that. It’s not schools responsibility to push social ideologies, it’s their jobs to help kids learn basic studies like math and reading.

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                exist

                Nobody is questioning existence, we just don’t care for it being pushed at schools.

                If I want my kid to learn solely about MAGA ideologies, should that be forced on every other kid in their class? Or, should I take some responsibility and teach my kids that myself?

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              kids are gonna learn these things regardless, especially these days. its best to help them rather than hinder them. the ones that are lgbtq+ need to know they are fine and its ok for them to be who they are.

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                kids are gonna learn these things regardless,

                Why? Why not let kids learn about society by…ya know, being part of society. Over representing these issues in schools despite parents wanting schools to focus on education that helps the students future is just the government pushing their own values. That’s what we don’t want, the government just taking our kids and pushing their morals, that’s literally what indian boarding schools were about.

                its best to help them rather than hinder them.

                How is telling kindergartners that they should cross dress helpful to our society?

                the ones that are lgbtq+ need to know they are fine

                Okay, so on day 1 teachers can say ‘hey if you aren’t straight or question gender, you’re fine’ then you’d be okay with it if the teachers never talked about sexuality and gender for the rest of the year?

                its ok for them to be who they are.

                Why shouldn’t the teachers be telling young christian boys it’s okay for them to be who they are?

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          Please name a public school that is “pushing gender identity and sexuality” on its elementary students. I would like to see evidence of this pushing.

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              Okay, how is that pushing anything? Where’s the pushing? I asked for pushing, you give me “this is something that is possible.”

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                Would you be saying the same thing if the k-5 education was about how much healthier and better off straight people are? Do you think teachers should spend health class saying how kids who think they’re gay should be straight instead?

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                  Does it literally say that trans people are healthier and better off than cis people? Please tell me which video and give me a timestamp. I’m not watching all of them just to find out that wasn’t true.

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              So, I’ve only seen the kindergarten video so far. They define the words acceptance, compassion, gender, gender role, and unique. A kid came out as trans girl. A direct quote is: “I don’t care if you’re a boy Teddy or girl Teddy. What matters is that you’re my friend.”

              I fail to see how this pushes children to be trans.

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                See, right there! At first it’s 'no it’s not happening anywhere!! then once we show you it is happening you say ‘okay it’s happening, but what’s wrong with teaching kindergartners how to crossdress??’

                Why teach kindergartners that cross dressing is fun, instead of, ya know, teaching kids useful stuff?

                Our education system spends more per full time student than any other country in the world, but our test scores are shitty.

                Do you think maybe there’s be less push back about teachers trying to parent our kids, if the teachers actually showed they can teach our kids reasonably?

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                  They’re disagreeing that what you posted counts as pushing rather than just informing; that’s not moving the goalposts, just disgareement.

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    Probably, that’s why we’ll see another simple word that the mouth breathers can say like a magic spell. A spell that will make all the smarter people that constantly tell them they are wrong go away