• Kite@sh.itjust.works
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    3 months ago

    Based on my own experience, this is how most cities handle their PD/FD funding, unfortunately. The fire department is just not important… until it is.

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      3 months ago

      The main problem is that the houses are made from wood and cardbord, and are placed in and/or surrounded by dry-as-a-fart forests and brushwork. Which is a stupid idea in an area that is known to regularly hve forest and brushwork fires. More now with global warming, which makes the plants even dryer.

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          3 months ago

          Nonetheless, all the houses I have seen burning in the news were surrounded by dry trees and shrubs. And those houses burned as well as any other American cardboard houses. Somehow, I see no difference between them and houses with not as strict building codes. So either they only show homes that have been grandfathered in, or those building codes make no serious difference.

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              3 months ago

              I saw more LA houses in the news, and again all what was left was the chimney. To me, it looks like houses there are just part of the fuel. But one cannot tell whether those houses were the ones that were grandfathered in. And if the new regulation is in power for just a few years, just keep in mind how many new houses with new standards have been built since then.

              Unlike houses here in Europe, which are usually made of stone, bricks, or concrete. Our house has a reinforced concrete basement and floors, foam concrete insulating walls, and concrete tiles on the roof. While it would definitively see damages if placed into the middle of such a firestorm, it would resist way longer, and would not contribute to the fire. I’d say before our house would get damaged beyond the need to just clean and repaint it, everything combustible (vegetation, sheds, fences) around would be long gone.

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            3 months ago

            … You realize it’s in the middle of the winter, right? All greenery is going to be dry looking, you can’t just not have greenery at all.

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      3 months ago

      You don’t understand wildland fire mitigation very much, do you. Every penny helps you troll. And by the way, I have my red card, and a minor in forest fire management.

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    3 months ago

    From my understanding the water towers had completely ran out of water and pumps couldn’t keep up. There’s was no issue with volume through the existing water system, there’s just no way to contain a fire that big. They should be taking preventative measures such as raking the forest.

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    3 months ago

    At least a bunch of rich fucks in Malibu and Pacific Palisades are paying the price for it.

    Doesn’t help the lungs and bronchial passages of people with asthma and other breathing issues though. A lot of people will die who were nowhere near the fires.

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    3 months ago

    I have to do other people’s jobs. Slap some tin foil on em and throw them in to help.

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    3 months ago

    Fire is a natural part of the ecological system. You can by time, but eventually, it will happen. Building in wildlands is a recipe for disaster, if you don’t create breaks, or defencable zones. It’s not a simple problem, with a simple solution. A big part of the problem, is building all those homes there, but if you’re gonna build, then you should protect. A lot of people build in forested areas and don’t create defensible zones, because, that’s why they move there, for pretty trees.

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      True, it’s a multi-level fuck-up, which nature is showing us quite clearly. Solutions would not need to be that difficult, just gradually stop burning fossil fuels, stop eating meat, build responsibly and spread money evenly. Too bad that all the people getting rich from these things have a succesful propaganda campaign going on. Nature will not be tamed however, not in the foreseeable future.

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    Just give firefighting responsibility to the cops! Then they can show up to your kitchen fire, put it out, shoot your dog, and arrest you for complaining all in one trip!

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        Yeah, I don’t think taking $17m from $837m results in this. If anything, it might have something to do with those cat 1 hurricane level winds.

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          lmao, what an argument for them to make. “It’s not a budget cut, the unions fought us, won, and made us hand over more money after we slashed their already hilarious low budget!”