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    Getting a flu + covid shot is free or nearly free for every American that has health insurance. It may be less convenient, but there are places to get a free flu and covid vaccines, if Americans do not have health insurance. Anecdote: This year, I had zero side effects from the shots besides a sore arm!

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      I’m ashamed to admit I didn’t realize the importance of getting a flu shot prior to living through the COVID pandemic. I do my best these days to inform people my age that getting vaccinated is about protecting others who might not fare against the virus as well as you might.

      Zero side effects from my last flu + COVID booster. Get it done, even if you’re not personally worried about getting sick.

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      I keep forgetting to get mine, but last year, when I went to schedule mine, they had open appointments starting a half an hour from then. I could’ve practically walked in and gotten a shot right then and there.

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        I was at a pharmacy recently that had a sign saying walk-ins welcome for flu shot. Especially this late in the season.

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        This year I made my appointment for my double shot and misread the confirmation/showed up a week early. They just let me get it as a walk in when I showed up.

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    Copying from my comment when you posted this on another community:

    The issue is that it’s less severe, partially because people have immunity and partially because the virus is weaker (this happens with new illnesses - they get less fatal and spread more).

    But wastewater isn’t newsworthy. It never has been. It’s disingenuous to say the media isn’t covering this when ERs are NOT having issues and people aren’t dying.

    Many doesn’t the media have mass coverage of the common cold? Why don’t they cover norovirus? Endemic shit that doesn’t kill people isn’t really newsworthy.

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      That’s slightly disingenuous in that COVID is still very dangerous. The last time I checked the fatalities, which I believe had been those of the first week of November, there were somewhere around 400 deaths from COVID that week and 13 from the flu in that 7 day period.

      I remember reading reports about the strains going around at the beginning of last year (Jan of 2023), and those were actually more dangerous and more infectious than the original strains were. But there were nowhere near the casualty rates because the vaccines work. But not everybody can get vaccinated, and every infection still has about a 20% chance of causing Long COVID despite the vaccine, which can be so crippling that it can put you on permanent disability or cause infertility (COVID is also stored in the balls, along with the pee).

      The reason that we see the wastewater reports is because that’s the only way that they’re legally allowed to report infection rates. The government mandated that the CDC stop recording other rates sometime during the height of the pandemic, around the time that companies started pushing for an end to lockdowns and for grandparents to die for the economy because their grandkids would thank them for it. Also around the time that DeSantis tried to make the person running the COVID tracking website for Florida fake the numbers so that he could say that COVID was over.

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        Flu and COVID will peak at different times in given communities comparing apples to oranges if the epitome of disingenuous

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          As is downplaying the risk and severity of what is very much still a dangerous virus - something that the US government is complicit in doing. Those numbers were national numbers for the US that week. Regardless of what part of the year they peak in, they’re both dangerous, but the CDC is only mandated to be unable to report on cases in any other way except by wastewater for one of them. And that means it’s impossible to get a proper comparison, but I’d say that it’s still a safe bet to guess that COVID peaks during the Christmas season and into the new year when people are inside more. Besides, the facts remain that not only is COVID still killing plenty of people - especially amongst those with medical issues that prevent them from getting vaccinated themselves or leave them immunocompromised - but every infection, regardless of severity, has a high chance of causing permanent damage to any organ. COVID has been found in every single organ in the body, from the brain to the testicles, and many long-term debilitating symptoms have been attributed to COVID infection. Things like brain fog, chronic exhaustion, sleep disorders, infertility, and many more.

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      Also, there’s been a January spike every January since 2021. It’s practically clockwork. Which also makes it not really newsworthy, especially as the disease becomes less deadly.

      https://www.mwra.com/biobot/biobotdata.htm

      On the other hand, I saw plenty of news stories about bad travel this holiday. Which is really, really not newsworthy. But we get those every year.

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      A virus that kills its host looses a vector to spread. It’s an evolutionary advantage to not kill your host, just leach off them to spread. Look at how well the common cold does.

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    “If we don’t talk about it anymore, stop testing, stop taking statistics, it’s almost like it doesn’t exist and we can just focus on growth” —Corperate media funders, probably

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    This is from December 19 but has some interesting info that I hadn’t seen before. It would be more readable if separated from the class war stuff.

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    Because its taboo, and some viewers/readers will scream about it (or at least disengage) just like they do for global warming.

    It makes my skin crawl whenever I see our (Florida) weathermen bite their tongues when looking at, say, a graph of ocean heat content, and thats an order of magnitude worse on big, national, corporate media. COVID is no different.

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    The 23rd was my first day fever free for my 2nd bout with COVID. It wasn’t bad at all this go around and I hadn’t had a booster in 18+ months.

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      It’s milder, yes… but it also depends on how much of the virus you get at the time of transmission. Talking with an infected person for a couple minutes is different than being next to a person laughing in a movie theater for two plus hours. The more virus you receive at the time of infection, the more sick/damage it can do before antibodies take over.

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    yes. why would they care? since we have vaccines, covid is just a flu, and it, like a flu, spikes in the winter.

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        you could also say the same about flu. why don’t you post about flu suddenly spiking in winter (surprisingly) and nobody caring about it?

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          1. COVID-19 spreads more quickly - it is more contagious and is contagious for longer than the flu.
          2. Severe illness is more frequent than the flu.
          3. Long-term effects are far more prevalent and far more severe with COVID.
          4. The ability for a coronavirus to mutate into a variant that is far more contagious and/or far more severe is much higher.
          5. The death rate for the flu is dramatically lower - 1.8 / 100k population than COVID with around a 240-300 deaths per 100k population. More than 1 million people have died from COVID in the US alone vs around 4-6000 per year from the Flu.
          6. People do in fact care about the flu spiking in winter. That’s why vaccines are promoted as much as they are.
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            is 4 backed by actual research?

            isn’t 5 because of the antivaxx things?

            and, about 6, yes. people care about the flu, but nobody ever says ‘flu is spiking and corporations don’t care’

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              You sound like someone who doesn’t really have a point but needs to argue for the sake of arguing. Maybe you can yell at yourself in a mirror - I’m sure it will be more entertaining.

              Edit: And to be clear… I wrote something in my prior comment that most people would interpret as wrong without some qualification or context. I decided to leave it partly out of laziness and partly to see if you would catch it and how. But instead of digging in you are just being confrontational.

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                yes, I kinda like debating. But, i also think i have a point though. Sorry if it seemed like i was some kind of troll.

                also, was it point 5? it seems kinda wrong to compare yearly deaths to total.

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    They’re silent because nobody, except for a handful of terminally online pandemic cosplayers care about it anymore, the rest of us have been living our lives normally for ~4 years now, despite your best efforts to drag us and the economy down by keeping us in pandemic mode for eternity.

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        Actually all my friends and relatives are still alive, including my grandparents, and one them is 99 years old even. None of them even had to go to the doctor for Covid. Even my boss who was dying of stage 4 cancer survived getting Covid.